Another look at Tannerman and those pyjamas.

[Wonderfulspam]

The  whte/cream blanket off of Crimewatch is baffling, what is it there for?

Its been suggested that the blue floral pyjamas is what Tanner saw in a light making them in her eyes white or pink

The top has nothing to do with anything.......as Tanner said in personal statements and in tv interviews she only saw a pair of feet/legs and bottom of pyjamas.....THOUGH, after her May 4th statement, she particpiated in a joint tapas 9 statement, typed and handed over to the PJ on May 10th before their next interviews where she is supposed to have said she didnt get a real good look at the top but it mght have been pink!
 >@@(*&)

So did she see a top or not?

Did she actually see anything at all?

[Redblossom]

Did she actually see anything at all?

LOL well she swears by everything sacred she did......if she saw innocenttouristman.....as SY think she almost certainly did, it still leaves the problem of him walking in the wrong direction going home from the creche

[mitch]

LOL well she swears by everything sacred she did......if she saw innocenttouristman.....as SY think she almost certainly did, it still leaves the problem of him walking in the wrong direction going home from the creche

could it be she saw the abductor but used the description of maddie.

[Redblossom]

could it be she saw the abductor but used the description of maddie.

Hi Mitch, welcome, sorry,I dont understand your question.......lol

[mitch]

im sorry I meant to explain that better.   I was just thinkin that could it be that she did see the abductor but because she could not see the child properly in a few seconds that she used a description she had heard from the parents or maybe even saw the lttle girl wearing them at another time.

[jassi]

im sorry I meant to explain that better.   I was just thinkin that could it be that she did see the abductor but because she could not see the child properly in a few seconds that she used a description she had heard from the parents or maybe even saw the lttle girl wearing them at another time.

Surely, if she couldn't see the child clearly, then she couldn't have any certainty that the carrier was an abductor, so why should she pretend that the the child was Madeleine?

[Redblossom]

im sorry I meant to explain that better.   I was just thinkin that could it be that she did see the abductor but because she could not see the child properly in a few seconds that she used a description she had heard from the parents or maybe even saw the lttle girl wearing them at another time.

I still dont understand..if she saw madeleines abductor then what does it matter what she was wearing..

where is the proof he was her abductor?

[Redblossom]

Are those pyjama's on the second photo madeleine's or just what the crime watch program used ?

The pyjamas shown on crimewatch alledgedly worn by the child of  the innocent man carrying their kid home from the creche are the ones with the orange band in the bottom of the leg! And blue with flowers on  the leg.. What Maddie was said to have been wearing is in the photos of her parents holding an identical pair up

[AnneGuedes]

mitch on December 16, 2013, 07:46:37 PM

    im sorry I meant to explain that better.   I was just thinkin that could it be that she did see the abductor but because she could not see the child properly in a few seconds that she used a description she had heard from the parents or maybe even saw the lttle girl wearing them at another time.

Redblossom

I still dont understand..if she saw madeleines abductor then what does it matter what she was wearing..

where is the proof he was her abductor?

I understand fairly well (I think). Ms Tanner saw Tannerman but not the child Tannerman was carrying, she saw legs. Convinced that the legs were Madeleine's she mentally put on those legs a pyjama that she had earlier seen on Madeleine or heard of.

[AnneGuedes]

How was miss tanner able to describe a child wearing pyjammas with frilly bottoms when the child wasn't wearing them???


there is no way she could have seen that imo and its not the sort of thing you make up unless you had already seen the child wearing them earlier or been told that was what she was wearing.  in fact the child who was supposed to have come from the crèche was wearing full length pjs with an orange band on the bottom of the legs.

In fact the sketch is close to Innocentchild's pyjama on the legs length topic, but close to Tannerchild's pyjama on the frill topic.

[AnneGuedes]

Are those pyjama's on the second photo madeleine's or just what the crime watch program used ?

They were supposed to be Madeleine's little sister's ones.. But the little sister, allegedly seeing those pyjamas, said : Madeleine's jammies...

[pegasus]

In fact the sketch is close to Innocentchild's pyjama on the legs length topic, but close to Tannerchild's pyjama on the frill topic.

Yes that is a good summary IMO.

BTW JT in her statements was not certain it was frills she saw, and she actually mentions turn-ups.
For whom was the artist, who drew the frills, working?

[AnneGuedes]

Yes that is a good summary IMO.

BTW JT in her statements was not certain it was frills she saw, and she actually mentions turn-ups.
For whom was the artist, who drew the frills, working?

The "artist" was working for Metodo 3, themselves paid partly by Brian Kennedy, partly by Madeleine's Fund. The sketch was released on the 25th of October.

[pegasus]

The "artist" was working for Metodo 3, themselves paid partly by Brian Kennedy, partly by Madeleine's Fund. The sketch was released on the 25th of October.

Thanks. IMO JT was unsure whether it was frills or turn-ups and I am happy to dig out sources for that if required. I don't think she ever said definitely frills. And she did mention turn-ups.
The elasticated bands on innocent creche dad pyjamas would look like turn-ups.
If the sketch showing frills had been done by the Met or by PJ we could be sure that there was no outside influence on whether the artist went for frills or turn-ups. But M3 and the people paying their fees might have preferred the frills choice? 

[AnneGuedes]

Don't forget the sketch was made following Ms Tanner's indications. I guess the sketch was shown to her before it was released, since the concept was hers.
Turn up or frill, the most impressive is, in Innocentchild's case, the colour of it, imo, contrasting with the rest.
I'm not as sceptic about the pyjama as I am of Innocentman walking from west to east instead of south to north. This, as well as the pyjama, could have been "adjusted" by Ms Tanner, though...
As long as SY is almost certain, I'm certain they're roaming.