Another look at Tannerman and those pyjamas.

[Angelo222]

If what you say is true Ica then the McCanns have been responsible for misleading the investigation yet again.

One thing is for sure and that is that the description of Madeleine's pyjamas were superimposed on top of those of the child Innocentman was carrying to make it look like Madeleine.

Note the frilly bottomed PJ's



Sketch based on Jane Tanner sighting.

[Cariad]

If what you say is true Ica then the McCanns have been responsible for misleading the investigation yet again.

One thing is for sure and that is that the description of Madeleine's pyjamas were superimposed on top of those of the child Innocentman was carrying to make it look like Madeleine.

Note the frilly bottomed PJ's



Sketch based on Jane Tanner sighting.

Not necessarily. I agree with Icabod's reading of JT as a people pleaser (with the little we can know of her) but it's possible GM was just being GM. He wasn't intentionally trying to mislead anyone, he was just convinced that he was right and has a more forceful personality than JT.

It's also possible that it was intentional though, but what he could gain from being one side of the street or the other, I don't know.

I know that the picture of Tannerman is faceless, but everything about him brings to mind a much younger person than Innocentman.... More than 6 years younger. I suppose that's probably the least of the discrepancies in the descriptions though.

I don't know. Tannermen/Innocentman is a strange one, all in all.

[Sherlock Holmes]

Did anyone notice that Kate has accessorised the pyjamas with the frilly-cuffed pink top she is wearing?

Being slightly fashion conscious myself, I am attentive to some of her wardrobe choices.

She really is a good PJ Co-ordinator.

[Cariad]

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*edit: cariad just beat me to an almost identical post

great minds think alike 

[AnneGuedes]

She really is a good PJ Co-ordinator.

I'm not fashion conscious, but what would one have thought if only the pants had been exhibited in front of the TV cameras ?

[peter claridge]

Bundleman = Fabrication

Crecheman = Fabrication

[AnneGuedes]

it's possible GM was just being GM. He wasn't intentionally trying to mislead anyone, he was just convinced that he was right and has a more forceful personality than JT.

It's also possible that it was intentional though, but what he could gain from being one side of the street or the other, I don't know.

Mr McCann knew perfectly then where JW had stated he was during the chat.
He knew also where Ms Tanner had. Both JW and Ms Tanner drew sketches.
Mr McCann took advantage of being alone with Ms Tanner to press on her. He had a crucial motive to do it. The AG, if he watched the fictionstruction, must have laughed.

[AnneGuedes]

I know that the picture of Tannerman is faceless, but everything about him brings to mind a much younger person than Innocentman.... More than 6 years younger.

What do you mean, Cariad ?

[AnneGuedes]

If I was to interlock my hand with my wrist and hold the child closer to my body then I would not tire as easily. A child the size of Madeleine I would have had to carry as Smithman did.

Does anybody know how old Innocentmans child was at the time?

I thought of that, the child I think was 2. That would be like cradle a child, not carrying it the first helper way.

Ms Tanner's attitude is just submission to authority coupled with, according to her, a victim. It doesn't mean she changed her mind.

[Cariad]

What do you mean, Cariad ?

http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=45&u=18181963 (With thanks to Redblossem for the link)

It's difficult to describe...

I don't know if its Tannerman's perfectly coiffured hair or perhaps his confident swaggering walk, but he looks... young... whereas Innocentman looks like a middle aged dad.

It's entirely irrelevant anyway I suppose. I'm just musing on it I guess.

[AnneGuedes]

http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=45&u=18181963 (With thanks to Redblossem for the link)

It's difficult to describe...

I don't know if its Tannerman's perfectly coiffured hair or perhaps his confident swaggering walk, but he looks... young... whereas Innocentman looks like a middle aged dad.

It's entirely irrelevant anyway I suppose. I'm just musing on it I guess.

Both of them look rather young imo. I think Innocentman could be Indian.

[Redblossom]

Both of them look rather young imo. I think Innocentman could be Indian.

There are a few names in the Mark Warner arrivals list with girls of two yrs old...none of them are Indian names but typically English/Irish.....however this arrivals list is only for that week, perhaps Innocent man was there longer? Who knows....

[AnneGuedes]

There are a few names in the Mark Warner arrivals list with girls of two yrs old...none of them are Indian names but typically English/Irish.....however this arrivals list is only for that week, perhaps Innocent man was there longer? Who knows....

I think I saw an Asiatic name.

[Wonderfulspam]

Yes that was at 10:40 quite a bit later than what they were asking about in all probability. He's never had a rog to say where he was from 10pm onwards in full detail. I'm surprised his arguido interview didn't cover it more fully. But the reconstruction would have covered it 

"While the guests and employees of the resort were searching, he went to the main Reception to check whether they had called the Police, and told Kate to wait inside the apartment. After going to the Reception he went back to the apartment where he stayed in the living room and in their bedroom." (GM 7 Sep)

Does that mean 10:40 to you Pegasus?

"Everybody sprinted back to our apartment, except for Dianne, who remained in the Tapas area, and Jane, who was away from the table seeing to her kids. I remember feeling frustrated when David said, ‘Let’s just check the apartment.’ I’d done that, and I knew, I knew, that Madeleine had been abducted. I ran out into the car park, flying from end to end, yelling desperately, ‘Madeleine! Madeleine!’  >@@(*&) It was so cold and so windy. I kept picturing her in her short-sleeved Marks and Spencer Eeyore pyjamas and feeling how chilled she would be. Bizarrely, I found myself thinking it would have been better if she’d been wearing her long-sleeved Barbie ones.  >@@(*&) (long sleeved re Smithman - PF) Fear was shearing through my body.
In the children’s room, Gerry lowered the shutter at the open window. Rushing outside, he made the sickening discovery that it could be raised from this side, too, not just from inside as we’d thought.  >@@(*&) (So did Dianne only minutes later and then Fiona after her - PF) Gerry, David, Russell and Matt split into pairs and dashed around the adjacent apartment blocks, meeting back at our flat within a couple of minutes.  >@@(*&) (Not according to Matt, Russ & DP - Gerry didn't meet up again with them - PF) Just after ten past ten, Gerry asked Matt to run to the Ocean Club’s twenty-four-hour reception to get the staff to call the police.  >@@(*&) (Not according to Matt & Fiona - PF) All the screaming and shouting had now alerted other guests and staff that something was amiss and various people were beginning to appear outside the apartment, front and back. I vividly recall sobbing, ‘Not Madeleine, not Madeleine, not Madeleine.’ I was trying so hard to suppress the negative voice in my head tormenting me with the words, ‘She’s gone. She’s gone.’ Even now, when the dark clouds close in on me, I find myself shaking my head manically and repeating over and over again, ‘Not Madeleine, not Madeleine. Please God, not my Madeleine.’
Gerry and I were standing in the living room clutching each other, utterly distraught. I couldn’t help myself, let alone try to soothe Gerry, who was in a state too harrowing for me to bear, howling for his precious little girl. I kept blaming myself – ‘We’ve let her down! We’ve failed her!’ – which increased Fiona’s own distress. ‘You haven’t, Kate. You haven’t,’ she insisted.
By this time the Mark Warner people had rounded up as many of their colleagues as they could, off-duty staff as well as those just finishing their shifts, rousing some of them from their beds. Close to ten-thirty they activated the company’s ‘missing child search protocol’ and mobilized people to comb the complex and its environs. At 10.35 the police had still not arrived, so Gerry asked Matt if he would go back down to the twenty-four-hour reception and find out what was happening.  John Hill, the Mark Warner resort manager, came up to the veranda behind our apartment. I remember screaming at him to do something. ‘Where are the police?’ I yelled at him." (Madeleine)

I kept picturing her in her short-sleeved Marks and Spencer Eeyore pyjamas and feeling how chilled she would be. Bizarrely, I found myself thinking it would have been better if she’d been wearing her long-sleeved Barbie ones.

[Wonderfulspam]

Awww Wspam 

You hit new levels of LOW if you can snear at that,

Kate need not have worried.

The Smithman abductor changed her jammies for her.