Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.

[Mr Gray]

Criticism of the McCanns happened before Amaral's views were known, so how can you demonstrate that his views fuelled the criticism? The effect existed before the cause, unless there was an increase in criticism following the release of Amaral's viewpoint. If it continued at the same level then it can't be said to have been affected by him at all.

How can you demonstrate it continued at the same level...a plainly ridiculous statement...amaral's views are still being used today to smear the McCanns...that is a fact

[stephen25000]

it is much harder in this case to prove something didn't happen because if it didn't happen ...it won't have left any evidence. it makes no sense for Drs McCann...having planned the perfect crime...to lie about something that was so easily verified....the Chinese whisper scenario...which you yourself have proved can happen is the much more logical explanation
There is no direct evidence that either of the Doctors used the word jemmied...just an assumption

The word or equivalent came from the mccanns, one way or the other.

Ask mccanns sister on that one.

Planned the perfect crime ?

Where does that came from ?

[Mr Gray]

The word or equivalent came from the mccanns, one way or the other.

Ask mccanns sister on that one.

Planned the perfect crime ?

Where does that came from ?

absolutely right...the equivalent...that's called a Chinese whisper...so at least Stephen agrees with me

[stephen25000]

absolutely right...the equivalent...that's called a Chinese whisper...so at least Stephen agrees with me

Your missing the point and being pedantic.

Who would tell mccanns sister the windows were open and the shutters jemmied or the equivalent ?

Otherwise you are saying mccanns sister lied.

[Mr Gray]

Your missing the point and being pedantic.

Who would tell mccanns sister the windows were open and the shutters jemmied or the equivalent ?

Otherwise you are saying mccanns sister lied.

You have accepted that the McCanns may have used an equivalent word...that's the whole point...it's a Chinese whisper

[stephen25000]

You have accepted that the McCanns may have used an equivalent word...that's the whole point...it's a Chinese whisper

Iy doesn't matter which word was used.

The claim referring to the window and sgutters came from the mccanns.

AND NOWHERE ELSE.

[Mr Gray]

Iy doesn't matter which word was used.

The claim referring to the window and sgutters came from the mccanns.

AND NOWHERE ELSE.

Of course it came from the McCanns...thank you for agreeing with me and supporting my stance.

[Alfred R Jones]

Davel made an accusation for which he has no evidence..

Address the point concerning your misquote of what he wrote.

[stephen25000]

Of course it came from the McCanns...thank you for agreeing with me and supporting my stance.

I'm not supporting you dave.

The word  jemmying was used.

The shutters weren't altered. T

The window OPENED ?..........  NO INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION

Only fingerprints identified were kate mccanns.

The jemmying claim is direct evidence the mccanns altered thier story.

Let's not forget Clarence either on this...................

“There was no evidence of a break-in”

[Mr Gray]

I'm not supporting you dave.

The word  jemmying was used.

The shutters weren't altered. T

The window OPENED ?..........  NO INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION

Only fingerprints identified were kate mccanns.

The jemmying claim is direct evidence the mccanns altered thier story.

Let's not forget Clarence either on this...................

“There was no evidence of a break-in”

As you have pointed out....the word jemmied or it's equivalent was used...I agree with you....the fact that an alternative word was used is evidence that the mccanns did not change their story

[stephen25000]

As you have pointed out....the word jemmied or it's equivalent was used...I agree with you....the fact that an alternative word was used is evidence that the mccanns did not change their story

You still don't get it.

The claim was made up by the mccanns, one way or the other.

It was a false claim.

[Mr Gray]

You still don't get it.

The claim was made up by the mccanns, one way or the other.

It was a false claim.

no false claim.....Chinese whisper as you have agreed

[Brietta]

I'm not supporting you dave.

The word  jemmying was used.

The shutters weren't altered. T

The window OPENED ?..........  NO INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION

Only fingerprints identified were kate mccanns.

The jemmying claim is direct evidence the mccanns altered thier story.

Let's not forget Clarence either on this...................

“There was no evidence of a break-in”

The shutter was raised and the window open:  one wonders why Dr Gerry McCann interfered with the carefully staged crime scene by closing it before the police could see it and then telling them he had found it open.

As far as the window being jemmied goes ... didn't some of the people in Britain refer to the apartment as a villa?

[Mr Gray]

The shutter was raised and the window open:  one wonders why Dr Gerry McCann interfered with the carefully staged crime scene by closing it before the police could see it and then telling them he had found it open.

As far as the window being jemmied goes ... didn't some of the people in Britain refer to the apartment as a villa?

they referred to the apartment as a chalet...but this seems to be ignored

[stephen25000]

no false claim.....Chinese whisper as you have agreed

FALSE CLAIM, from the mccanns.

Now what did Mitchell say again ?

“There was no evidence of a break-in”

You do realize the implication of that , don't you ?

If the window and shutters had been altered, it would have been evidence.

Mitchell knows it never happened.