Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.

[Alice Purjorick]

Dr Gerry McCann did not believe that the shutters could be raised from the outside.  Indeed until a video was released of a person doing just that with the shutter at Madeleine McCann's bedroom window ... sceptics were in agreement and denial that such an action was possible.

When he lowered the shutter to test if it could be raised from outside he ...

• destroyed at a stroke a piece of evidence from the crime scene; which rather suggests had he been complicit in 'arranging' it would have been an even more stupid action than it was to touch it in the first place
• on discovering that the shutter which he obviously thought of as a security measure could be opened from outside ... imagine his despair
• therefore to imagine that the shutters had been 'forced' from outside and the apartment 'broken into' from that place is a perfectly reasonable assumption to make

Why it remains a discussion point makes as much sense as ... the six dead bodies ... which was attributed to but never said by Dr Kate McCann ... please, please no-one start a thread on that nonsense.

Now I thought the bedroom window was locked by an internal CDA. So how was the window opened to reach in to wind the shutter CDA ?

[stephen25000]

OFF TOPIC
Force = mass x acceleration. SI unit of force is the Newton which is the force exerted by a British Standard Granny Smith's falling through 2 metres onto some geezers head.

 

and if if helps dave, the 2nd law as well.

F = dP/dt    P refers to momentum and 't' of course time.

and a practical application of course is...

W = mg   

[Mr Gray]

OFF TOPIC
Force = mass x acceleration. SI unit of force is the Newton which is the force exerted by a British Standard Granny Smith's falling through 2 metres onto some geezers head.

Thank you....I don't recall Newton telling us that a force  causes damage....although that may be a consequence....but what does Newton know compared to the members of this forum

[Mr Gray]

and if if helps dave, the 2nd law as well.

F = dP/dt    P refers to momentum and 't' of course time.

and a practical application of course is...

W = mg   

doesn't help at all.....perhaps if you understood what you are posting you would realise it doesn't help

[Alice Purjorick]

Thank you....I don't recall Newton telling us that a force  causes damage....although that may be a consequence....but what does Newton know compared to the members of this forum

I don't think I said that either. A force added suddenly with impact can cause damage of course. As can an ever increasing force.
Sorry your point was?

[stephen25000]

doesn't help at all.....perhaps if you understood what you are posting you would realise it doesn't help

Oh Dave.

So predictable.

and still clueless.

[Mr Gray]

I don't think I said that either. A force added suddenly with impact can cause damage of course. As can an ever increasing force.
Sorry your point was?

my point is...that contrary to what g posted a force does not necessarily cause damage...

[Mr Gray]

Oh Dave.

So predictable.

and still clueless.

what is predictable is that you have totally missed the point re force and damage which is totally on topic

[stephen25000]

my point is...that contrary to what g posted a force does not necessarily cause damage...

Have you forgotten what Clarence said ?

[stephen25000]

what is predictable is that you have totally missed the point re force and damage which is totally on topic

No Dave.

No one applied any force to the shutters until the mccanns did.

[Brietta]

Now I thought the bedroom window was locked by an internal CDA. So how was the window opened to reach in to wind the shutter CDA ?

Do we even know if the window was opened from the outside, or if it was opened from the inside.  Nor do we have any idea why it was opened at all.

[Alice Purjorick]

my point is...that contrary to what g posted a force does not necessarily cause damage...

Then why not take it up with g rather than respond to my post which said no such thing?

[Alice Purjorick]

Do we even know if the window was opened from the outside, or if it was opened from the inside.  Nor do we have any idea why it was opened at all.

Indeed. We then have the rather Hoffnungesque situation of some person entering the apartment through a door to crack open the window so he can go outside to lever up the shutter far enough to slide the window back far enough to insert his mit to operate the shutter CDA then gain entrance or alternatively have a bundle passed to him.
Yeah! I suppose that makes sense.

[Eleanor]

Indeed. We then have the rather Hoffnungesque situation of some person entering the apartment through a door to crack open the window so he can go outside to lever up the shutter far enough to slide the window back far enough to insert his mit to operate the shutter CDA then gain entrance or alternatively have a bundle passed to him.
Yeah! I suppose that makes sense.

Not a logical conclusion.  Surely you can do better than that.

[Alfred R Jones]

Then why not take it up with g rather than respond to my post which said no such thing?

LOL - you did ask what Davel's point was and he replied.  Aren't you being a little unfair?