Madeleine McCann case to be re-opened in Portugal as an abduction scenario.

[gilet]

I thought it was a reasonable question tbh.

Of course, on this forum one has to be correct 100% of the time or anything else you say will be ridiculed by the pedants ...

N

It was a perfectly reasonable question and demonstrated that the person asking it was not au fait with PT law. Now, however, that same person is regaling us with knowledge and speculation based on that knowledge. That is intriguing.

No-one has suggested that any forum member must be 100% accurate in all their posts. Indeed while you were typing this I was preparing a post in which I admit to an error.

[AnneGuedes]

I do not know. He could have been, or maybe he had other motives, or maybe he was an innocent third party. He could even have been a figment of the Smith's imagination for all we know, although I would say that is unlikely. But we can't be totally sure that the Smith's didn't confuse their days, for example.

Come on, they were 9 people and had a bar ticket with the date and hour on it.

[Redblossom]

I have no desire to be known as a soothsayer. I leave that to others.
I am simply re-iterating the news and commenting on the facts presented there.

no you were not... You were NOT reiterating any news that the Mccanns will NEVER be suspects in the future....something YOU alone decreed
 

[gilet]

keep digging.......you may come out the other side sometime.....and you will come face to face with a police officers statement and a husbands statements of facts......

As I said, I shall willingly read her statement and consider it if it ever appears. Till then there is nothing definitive which indicates that it does.

I am not digging. I am just waiting for the proof.

[AnneGuedes]

Indeed while you were typing this I was preparing a post in which I admit to an error.

Lol ! THE error intended to suggest all others aren't !

[Haskins]

Come on, they were 9 people and had a bar ticket with the date and hour on it.

But they didn't report anything for 5 days? And was every day similar? Did they mix their bar tickets up? How much had they been drinking?

You are right if you are suggesting they are the best witnesses available. But I'm just advising objective caution.  >@@(*&)

[gilet]

no you were not... You were NOT reiterating any news that the Mccanns will NEVER be suspects in the future....something YOU alone decreed
 

I did not "decree" this as you state. I offered that opinion as part of a post. Like all posters I am entitled to offer opinion. It is not soothsaying (as in your nasty dig about me being as one with Mystic Meg), nor is it decretal to offer such opinion. It is part and parcel of the forum interaction.

My opinion is moreover based on the facts that SY have declared (yes declared) the McCanns to be out of their remit of suspicion and interest and that the PJ involved the couple in the meeting at which the re-opening of the case was discussed.

If you can offer evidence of any other cases where suspects have been involved in such meetings, having been declared not to be suspects by one of the police forces involved, I shall gladly reconsider my opinion. Till then I shall remain of the view I offered previously.

[BigFatBlonde]

The thing is, if Smithman turns out to be an innocent, and Tannerman has been effectively ruled out, where does that leave the abduction theory?

N

[Apostate]

Not seeing it .its getting so boring about it being gerry .mr smith didnt say it was .
The sacked copper did

Martin Smith said he was 60-80% certain it was Gerry.

[Mr Gray]

Martin Smith said he was 60-80% certain it was Gerry.

its almost as accurate as the dna

[gilet]

Come on, they were 9 people and had a bar ticket with the date and hour on it.

I agree. I think the Smiths were in Kelly's bar on May 3rd as they stated.

We know that for certain because just days after Amaral was dismissed from the case for gross breaches of the code of behaviour for officers, the PJ eventually got round to doing the basic police task of confirming the time by interviewing the staff and collecting a copy of the till receipt. I cannot imagine why they did not do this fundamental inquiry in the previous five months.

Do you have any suggestions as to why they didn't?

[Haskins]

The thing is, if Smithman turns out to be an innocent, and Tannerman has been effectively ruled out, where does that leave the abduction theory?

N

It will remain an unproven theory. Pretty much like it is now, only more so! 

[Victoria]

The thing is, if Smithman turns out to be an innocent, and Tannerman has been effectively ruled out, where does that leave the abduction theory?

N

What difference would it make to the abduction theory?

[Apostate]

can someone provide the source for the PJ saying this is being treated as an abduction with the McCanns ruled out - otherwise we have to assume  it's Clarence making things up again

[AnneGuedes]

The two efits being of the same person  are a bit of a joke, probably reflecting the joker who had them made.......who was he?
 >@@(*&)

He couldn't do what did the hero of Dark Passage, so the unique solution was to cover tracks and confuse the issue.