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Benita

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Re: Goncalo Amaral's thesis trashed by SY and PJ
« Reply #210 on: October 26, 2013, 02:28:27 PM »
The reason invoked to reopen the process of investigation has nothing to do with the McCann - that was the only new fact that could be used.~

However, when an investigation is reopened it goes back to everything that was done before. The McCann are not off the hook.

but they were never on the hook luz.. 8-)(--)

Lyall

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Re: Goncalo Amaral's thesis trashed by SY and PJ
« Reply #211 on: October 26, 2013, 02:29:35 PM »
I find your analysis quite odd.

Are you really saying that the lawyers or the politicians forced SY and the PJ to tell us the McCanns are not suspects but that it isn't really true?

This is getting into the realms of conspiralunacy I fear.

As I said I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, and neither do you. But you can bet lawyers are heavily involved in what's said to the public - in both countries.

Offline gilet

Re: Goncalo Amaral's thesis trashed by SY and PJ
« Reply #212 on: October 26, 2013, 02:29:42 PM »
The truth coming from the poster who claims that amaral has been cleared

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He doesn't does he?

How can anybody be so naive to believe that a failed appeal indicates that a person has been cleared.

Mr. Lus is clearly with Mr Amaral himself barking up a wrong tree.


Offline gilet

Re: Goncalo Amaral's thesis trashed by SY and PJ
« Reply #213 on: October 26, 2013, 02:32:36 PM »
The reason invoked to reopen the process of investigation has nothing to do with the McCann - that was the only new fact that could be used.~

However, when an investigation is reopened it goes back to everything that was done before. The McCann are not off the hook.

Having had it made clear by the AG in the summation to the initial investigation that there is no evidence against them.

Having been declared by SY that they are not suspects.

Having been told by the PJ that they are not suspects.

It is a bit weird that you seem to think they are suspects and still dangling on some hook.

Thankfully your view is of no interest to the McCanns who can now get on with assisting the police with the investigation and hopefully the outcome they desire, finding Madeleine and ensuring her abductor is brought to justice.


Offline Luz

Re: Goncalo Amaral's thesis trashed by SY and PJ
« Reply #214 on: October 26, 2013, 02:33:07 PM »
Hugo Marçal, that was a defense lawyer for one of the arguidos in Casa Pia process, made several requests for the reopening of the process and to have his client as assistant. His client was convicted to 18 years in prison and he is serving 6 years and some months (because he was found as implicated in the crimes against minors)

Offline Luz

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« Reply #215 on: October 26, 2013, 02:35:40 PM »
Having had it made clear by the AG in the summation to the initial investigation that there is no evidence against them.

Having been declared by SY that they are not suspects.

Having been told by the PJ that they are not suspects.

It is a bit weird that you seem to think they are suspects and still dangling on some hook.

Thankfully your view is of no interest to the McCanns who can now get on with assisting the police with the investigation and hopefully the outcome they desire, finding Madeleine and ensuring her abductor is brought to justice.

The PJ never said they were not suspects. Where did you get that from?
The PJ is obliged to the secrecy of justice, anything that is said is just bolllllllllks

Offline gilet

Re: Goncalo Amaral's thesis trashed by SY and PJ
« Reply #216 on: October 26, 2013, 02:36:22 PM »
Hugo Marçal, that was a defense lawyer for one of the arguidos in Casa Pia process, made several requests for the reopening of the process and to have his client as assistant. His client was convicted to 18 years in prison and he is serving 6 years and some months (because he was found as implicated in the crimes against minors)

Fascinating. But totally irrelevant I am afraid. Hugo Marcal's client had not been subject to an initial investigation lasting a year in which no evidence was found against him. Nor was he subject to two separate case reviews lasting in total almost 5 years at the end of which a declaration was made that he was not a suspect.

The McCanns have and on the basis of that I predict quite confidently that neither Alves, nor the McCanns are going to jail over any aspect of this case.

Offline Luz

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« Reply #217 on: October 26, 2013, 02:39:59 PM »
Fascinating. But totally irrelevant I am afraid. Hugo Marcal's client had not been subject to an initial investigation lasting a year in which no evidence was found against him. Nor was he subject to two separate case reviews lasting in total almost 5 years at the end of which a declaration was made that he was not a suspect.

The McCanns have and on the basis of that I predict quite confidently that neither Alves, nor the McCanns are going to jail over any aspect of this case.

Alves will not, and he will be the best PR any criminal could wish, as long as they have money to pay him. When they are through, and they will end up in jail, if that is the case, Alves will not move his little finger. In fact he will even go in TV to comment on the case in order to make a few more Euros.

Offline gilet

Re: Goncalo Amaral's thesis trashed by SY and PJ
« Reply #218 on: October 26, 2013, 02:42:26 PM »
Alves will not, and he will be the best PR any criminal could wish, as long as they have money to pay him. When they are through, and they will end up in jail, if that is the case, Alves will not move his little finger. In fact he will even go in TV to comment on the case in order to make a few more Euros.

You really have a very sour opinion of people don't you. Its often said that how a person expresses their view of others is a reflection of themselves. I am not sure how true that is but it may be.

I would personally hate to got through life with such a bitter view of people against whom there is no suggestion of crime.


Offline comanche

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« Reply #219 on: October 26, 2013, 02:42:48 PM »
Luz sadly where did that comment come from off the hook the PJ & SY have stated they are not ppl of interest and they have not commited a crime. We must try to move on and not keep on the track they are guilty.

Offline Luz

Re: Goncalo Amaral's thesis trashed by SY and PJ
« Reply #220 on: October 26, 2013, 02:45:32 PM »
You really have a very sour opinion of people don't you. Its often said that how a person expresses their view of others is a reflection of themselves. I am not sure how true that is but it may be.

I would personally hate to got through life with such a bitter view of people against whom there is no suggestion of crime.

I worked within the system for more than 20 years. I still work with it and I know what I know. I have no bitterness, I have an objective look that you cannot have.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Goncalo Amaral's thesis trashed by SY and PJ
« Reply #221 on: October 26, 2013, 02:46:10 PM »
several requests for the reopening of the process and to have his client as assistant.
Magalhães e Menezes made them arguidos after having accepted the process to make them assistants, which shows that, before the September interviews, the doubt was in their favour. The global refusal to answer the 48 except for the 49th, by which Mrs McCann admitted her refusal to reply was hampering the search for Madeleine, might have made Magalhães e Menezes reject the assistant proposal in spite of the attempts of Abreu to obtain it. Now the same Magalhães e Menezes will have to decide on that topic again.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Goncalo Amaral's thesis trashed by SY and PJ
« Reply #222 on: October 26, 2013, 02:51:22 PM »
how a person expresses their view of others is a reflection of themselves.
This time you're speaking reasonably for yourself. Keep meditating it and perhaps we'll be able to debate.

Offline Luz

Re: Goncalo Amaral's thesis trashed by SY and PJ
« Reply #223 on: October 26, 2013, 02:51:48 PM »
Magalhães e Menezes made them arguidos after having accepted the process to make them assistants, which shows that, before the September interviews, the doubt was in their favour. The global refusal to answer the 48 except for the 49th, by which Mrs McCann admitted her refusal to reply was hampering the search for Madeleine, might have made Magalhães e Menezes reject the assistant proposal in spite of the attempts of Abreu to obtain it. Now the same Magalhães e Menezes will have to decide on that topic again.

Now it will be Dra. Joana Marques Vidal. And she is not one to be fooled easily.

ferryman

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Re: Goncalo Amaral's thesis trashed by SY and PJ
« Reply #224 on: October 26, 2013, 02:53:43 PM »
Now it will be Dra. Joana Marques Vidal. And she is not one to be fooled easily.

The prosecutors, while, in general, sound, appear to have been duped by the way the dogs were handled.