Author Topic: Calling for a priest is quite normal for a Catholic family in such circumstances?  (Read 7248 times)

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Rachel Granada

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Not in my very catholic family. Maybe the Scots/Irish are different, I don't know....

Yes I think we can sum this up as cultural differences, Luz. 

Offline Carana

I think this is right, Rachel. It depends on the community and the place.

In a religious community, people are calling on their leaders and advisors on a regular basis, about matters big and small.

Yes. One term is "pastoral care".

AnneGuedes

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Consulates have a list of priests of various religions who speak the language of their nationals. Through their emergency number you can call a priest and ask him to put himself in a taxi if physical contact is needed.
What are cell phones made for ?

Offline Candi

I am Catholic and of southern Irish decent (not that this makes a difference) but from my experience the most commonly known time we seek guidance, prayers or blessing from a priest is when a loved one has passed away or is terminally ill/on death bed...  I find it odd that the parents were asking for a priest so early.. but this is just my opinion.. 

Offline BigFatBlonde

I am Catholic and of southern Irish decent (not that this makes a difference) but from my experience the most commonly known time we seek guidance, prayers or blessing from a priest is when a loved one has passed away or is terminally ill/on death bed...  I find it odd that the parents were asking for a priest so early.. but this is just my opinion..

I'm not a Catholic - but my partner of 20 years is and I must agree with the above. A good friend of mine is a Vicar (C of E) and he is called upon quite a bit for pastoral care - but not at 3 in the morning. People tend to wait for a Godly hour  before contacting him unless it is a matter of life and death.

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Redblossom

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Even when kate mccann got a priest she complained his  was too smiley lolol

and added not that it matters but it mattered enough for her to complain about it in her book, he wasnt grieving looking enough



I mean honestly, she dams  and complains and casts aspersions against many in her book, but the bleeding priest as well?

LOL how rotten!!!

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Offline Candi

I'm not a Catholic - but my partner of 20 years is and I must agree with the above. A good friend of mine is a Vicar (C of E) and he is called upon quite a bit for pastoral care - but not at 3 in the morning. People tend to wait for a Godly hour  before contacting him unless it is a matter of life and death.

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Who knows how we would react ? But Yes it does seem strange, a priest wouldn't be a priority for me, i would still be out frantically searching...

Benita

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Who knows how we would react ? But Yes it does seem strange, a priest wouldn't be a priority for me, i would still be out frantically searching...

well you are not kate are you ...people deal with things in different ways ...


Offline sadie

Who knows how we would react ? But Yes it does seem strange, a priest wouldn't be a priority for me, i would still be out frantically searching...
How rediculous. 

They had to be around in case Madeleine turned up or the Police wanted to contact them ... and in a desperate situation like that, they wouldn't have been able to face searching.  They were totally and utterly distraught.

They knew everyone had been out there thoroughly searching.   And you can bet your bottom dollar that in their hearts they knew Madekleine had been taken; that she was gone far away from the immediate area.

It is very easy to keep criticizing when you haven't been there.   And hopefully none of us have

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Well he aint my cup o tea, but as a priest I guess looks dont matter too much

That isn't Father Pacheco, Sadie. Its Father Hubbard

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Offline Candi

How rediculous. 

They had to be around in case Madeleine turned up or the Police wanted to contact them ... and in a desperate situation like that, they wouldn't have been able to face searching.  They were totally and utterly distraught.

They knew everyone had been out there thoroughly searching.   And you can bet your bottom dollar that in their hearts they knew Madekleine had been taken; that she was gone far away from the immediate area.

It is very easy to keep criticizing when you haven't been there.   And hopefully none of us have
...  No, no, no... I'm not having that, I will never forget when my 2 year old daughter went missing.. a neighbour called to see my husband and didn't close the door behind him properly... You can imagine what happened next.. My world turned upside down, after searching the house i ran down the street searching all my neighbours gardens, she was nowhere to be seen.. I didn't even have time to go back into the house to call the police, instead I shouted orders for one of my neighbours to ring.... I was 9 months pregnant at the time and nobody would have stopped me looking untill i found her... Police arrived (plain clothed) asked me what my little girl was wearing etc etc..I was frantic..  1 hour later we found her, thank God.... So Yes, i think i have an idea of what it could be like..     

Offline sadie

I think you are right DCI

I got it from Joana Morais blogspot
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/07/british-priest-staged-everything.html

McCann Case: 'The British Priest Staged Everything' 1 July 2009 | Posted by Joana Morais Leave a Comment

We went to Praia da Luz to speak with Father José Manuel – the priest of the local church – who accompanied all the sequence of events, lived after the disappearance of the English girl. Refuting all knowledge regarding the whereabouts of the blanket, the Father also denies the insinuations against his past.

  Have you participated in all of the British community celebrations?
-In all.

And, specifically, you participated in religious acts for the girl Madeleine. Have you ever noticed in the existence of a pink blanket that belonged to the child?
- I participated, but I don’t know anything. The British priest, called by Madeleine parents, it was him who celebrated all the masses. In that context, the only thing that I could do for her was to pray. The other priest is the one who knows a lot – and he staged everything – it was him who made statements and who spoke to the PJ.

But, where could Maddie’s blanket be?
-It would be good to know, it’s possible that the other priest and the PJ know.

The PJ doesn’t know. Does that mean that they have ‘lost’ the evidence?
- I don’t know anything; I only know that, when everything was too ‘hot’, various stories were told, badly told and even more about me: that I was ‘exiled’ to the Vatican to speak with the Pope… Just because I missed 2 or three days, I was made an ‘exiled’.

Was it normal to hand out the church keys?
- It’s not me who decides. [silence]


There are some who have accused you of, when you where at the Gaia Seminary, having participated in act of harassment and sexual abuse.
- It’s all a lie; the media have nothing else to do. It is easy to attack the image of a priest. But, at this moment the defamers are being sued.


in Semanário Privado, 1 July 2009 - Paper Editon Only



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SNIP/-
There are some who have accused you of, when you where at the Gaia Seminary, having participated in act of harassment and sexual abuse.
- It’s all a lie; the media have nothing else to do. It is easy to attack the image of a priest. But, at this moment the defamers are being sued.


in Semanário Privado, 1 July 2009 - Paper Editon Only

And this shows a document, I think, about the alleged abuse

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id259.html

Top LH one, maybe others, I think.  I dont speak PT

icabodcrane

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I think you are right DCI

I got it from Joana Morais blogspot
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/07/british-priest-staged-everything.html

McCann Case: 'The British Priest Staged Everything' 1 July 2009 | Posted by Joana Morais Leave a Comment

We went to Praia da Luz to speak with Father José Manuel – the priest of the local church – who accompanied all the sequence of events, lived after the disappearance of the English girl. Refuting all knowledge regarding the whereabouts of the blanket, the Father also denies the insinuations against his past.

  Have you participated in all of the British community celebrations?
-In all.

And, specifically, you participated in religious acts for the girl Madeleine. Have you ever noticed in the existence of a pink blanket that belonged to the child?
- I participated, but I don’t know anything. The British priest, called by Madeleine parents, it was him who celebrated all the masses. In that context, the only thing that I could do for her was to pray. The other priest is the one who knows a lot – and he staged everything – it was him who made statements and who spoke to the PJ.

But, where could Maddie’s blanket be?
-It would be good to know, it’s possible that the other priest and the PJ know.

The PJ doesn’t know. Does that mean that they have ‘lost’ the evidence?
- I don’t know anything; I only know that, when everything was too ‘hot’, various stories were told, badly told and even more about me: that I was ‘exiled’ to the Vatican to speak with the Pope… Just because I missed 2 or three days, I was made an ‘exiled’.

Was it normal to hand out the church keys?
- It’s not me who decides. [silence]


There are some who have accused you of, when you where at the Gaia Seminary, having participated in act of harassment and sexual abuse.
- It’s all a lie; the media have nothing else to do. It is easy to attack the image of a priest. But, at this moment the defamers are being sued.


in Semanário Privado, 1 July 2009 - Paper Editon Only

So what was it about Father Hubbard that you didn't like the look of  ?