Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012

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jackie cant wait for the child killers blogger to come out, what an exciting life the stupid old hag must have.
anyone know what she looks like? she reckon she is stunning and beautiful.Just been looking at her posts on the other forum shes a psychotic s...k and she has the cheek to call other people, even sheila caffell who was genuinly stunning.she hates danielle hamond the former model who now goes out with bamber,preece doesnt like any female to get attention of the child killer except herself, sad old witch hehehehe

she still stalking members on here?

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this is funny, roch says that people have backed off due to things not case related
yes they have all backed off because of preece, are you so silly you cant see that roch but the s...k still posts
they must love her on the forum or are shit scared of her hehehe

or they have been banned tesko and co dont like their little rose coloured world spoiling with the truth so anyone who dont believe bamber gets banned, some forum

[John]

this is funny, roch says that people have backed off due to things not case related
yes they have all backed off because of preece, are you so silly you cant see that roch but the s...k still posts
they must love her on the forum or are shit scared of her hehehe

or they have been banned tesko and co dont like their little rose coloured world spoiling with the truth so anyone who dont believe bamber gets banned, some forum

I don't think they have anything left to offer now that the case is before the CCRC and its final death knell.  Mike tried to resurrect some of the old arguments but they are as worthless now as they were before.  I also believe that the ITV Tonight programme was a total and utter mitigated disaster for them.  Simon McKay had led everyone to believe that he had discovered some marvellous new evidence when all along all he had to offer was technicalities.  Technicalities will not overturn a conviction for murdering five people including two children.  If anyone believes for a minute that they will then they are living in cloud cuckoo land with La La.

[John]

i wonder how many officers mike tesko is including in his suggested cover-up conspiracy? wouldn't it have been like ripples in a pond?

according to mike tesko's latest post, the police photographer DEFINITELY knew that sheila was on the bed with one shot. is there any way of finding the identity of this person?

It was PC Bird.

[puglove]

thank you. Is it known if he is still alive? because if he is, Mike could get agent z to speak to him

[Angelo222]

i wonder how many officers mike tesko is including in his suggested cover-up conspiracy? wouldn't it have been like ripples in a pond?

according to mike tesko's latest post, the police photographer DEFINITELY knew that sheila was on the bed with one shot. is there any way of finding the identity of this person?

Just ask yourself the question, what would Sheila be doing lying on a bed with one shot to her throat after 9am when we know from every single witness report that she had two shots to her throat when found on the floor at 7.45am?

Anyone who believes a word Mike Teskoswski posts is as deluded as he is.

[puglove]

thank you. Is it known if he is still alive? because if he is, Mike could get agent z to speak to him

maybe agent z got the photo from PC Bird? that would make sense

[John]

thank you. Is it known if he is still alive? because if he is, Mike could get agent z to speak to him

He is still alive according to my latest information as are most of those who attended the shooting that morning. Getting agent Z to speak to PC Bird is akin to having the Dalai Lama invite a Yeti to tea...it just couldn't happen!

[puglove]

That's a good question. Seems like we need a Hartley over here!

It's a shame to see Hartley sucking up to that Preece woman. Seems like he's being made to toe the line, like the rest of them. He used to have a real edge.

Hartley probably wants to stay on there until the decision. Playing ball with Preece is the only way. That's why hardly anyone posts anymore.

[Myster]

Did anyone notice that the Anschutz 525 used in the ITV tests was a short-barreled version, not the same as the long-barreled actual murder weapon held by PC Whiddon in the old b&w photo.

Look at the side view in YouTube ITV film part 2.., pause at 3:13 and take a screenshot.

(I use the free "Irfanview"...Options...Capture/Screenshot...5)Custom rectangle/region capture...Choose a Destination directory...then Start).

Find and open the captured pic. and compare with the b&w photo side by side.

What effect if any, would an increased barrel length have on the presence of deposit around the wounds?

[Weety]

Did anyone notice that the Anschutz 525 used in the ITV tests was a short-barreled version, not the same as the long-barreled actual murder weapon held by PC Whiddon in the old b&w photo.

Look at the side view in YouTube ITV film part 2.., pause at 3:13 and take a screenshot.

(I use the free "Irfanview"...Options...Capture/Screenshot...5)Custom rectangle/region capture...Choose a Destination directory...then Start).

Find and open the captured pic. and compare with the b&w photo side by side.

What effect if any, would an increased barrel length have on the presence of deposit around the wounds?

That's a good point, could you post the screen shots? Although I would hope that they used the correct weapon in the Arizona tests.

[Myster]

Here you are Weety.

I can't get it to show up in Preview, so it may not show up here 

[Weety]

It shows fine for me, thanks for that. And yes, the barrel is clearly very much shorter.

[Angelo222]

Did anyone notice that the Anschutz 525 used in the ITV tests was a short-barreled version, not the same as the long-barreled actual murder weapon held by PC Whiddon in the old b&w photo.

Look at the side view in YouTube ITV film part 2.., pause at 3:13 and take a screenshot.

(I use the free "Irfanview"...Options...Capture/Screenshot...5)Custom rectangle/region capture...Choose a Destination directory...then Start).

Find and open the captured pic. and compare with the b&w photo side by side.

What effect if any, would an increased barrel length have on the presence of deposit around the wounds?

That's a good point, could you post the screen shots? Although I would hope that they used the correct weapon in the Arizona tests.

Nicely pointed out!!!    I did wonder at that but wrongly dismissed it.  A longer barrel would also dissipate heat better as well so looks like the test was a bit of a joke.  Can you do a Twitter release on this admin as this is yet another blot against that ITV prog? 

[Angelo222]

That's a good question. Seems like we need a Hartley over here!

Not if he deregisters and runs away every time he gets a decent challenge like has happened over there several times.  They treat him and anyone else who disagrees with then with disdain and Hartley is finding it very frustrating if yesterdays posts are anything to go by.   At least here he could guide the way with the background knowledge he has.  In saying that though I am not convinced he is a he at all if you know what I mean?

I am quite sure he would be welcome regardless of previous comments, all water under the bridge at this stage.