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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #60 on: November 21, 2013, 09:57:37 PM »
So are you calling into question the Oxford dictionary definition of the word 'sedative' ?

Oxford dictionary definition of sedative-

a drug taken for its calming or sleep-inducing effect

as I said a comfortable bed is sleep inducing but it isn't a sedative

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #61 on: November 21, 2013, 10:03:21 PM »
Calpol is not a sedative and has no sedative properties..fact

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #62 on: November 21, 2013, 10:04:24 PM »
So are you calling into question the Oxford dictionary definition of the word 'sedative' ?

 You are confusing sleep and sedation...they are not the same thing

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2013, 10:16:13 PM »
Best way to try and explain to you is

I have a pain in my leg at 12 midday and I take paracetamol and the pain goes away

I have a pain in my leg at 12 midnight and I take a paracetamol and the pain goes away and I fall asleep

Cariad

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #64 on: November 21, 2013, 10:18:25 PM »
So are you calling into question the Oxford dictionary definition of the word 'sedative' ?

Pat, am I right in believing that you aren't insisting that Calpol causes drowsiness, but that sedative  can mean more than just 'causes drowsiness'?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #65 on: November 21, 2013, 10:49:57 PM »
100% correct Cariad, as per the Oxford dictionary definition of 'sedative' !
A 'sedative' assuages pain, it does not need to be sleep inducing !
Not my words, they are the austere words of the highly respected Oxford dictionary !
Some of our numbers on this forum seem to want to re-write the definition of the word in deference to the people of the Oxford dictionary !

however hard you try to spin it you are wrong...calpol could never be described as a sedative by any sensible person.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #66 on: November 21, 2013, 11:08:00 PM »
100% correct Cariad, as per the Oxford dictionary definition of 'sedative' !
A 'sedative' assuages pain, it does not need to be sleep inducing !
Not my words, they are the austere words of the highly respected Oxford dictionary !
Some of our numbers on this forum seem to want to re-write the definition of the word in deference to the people of the Oxford dictionary !

 nothing wrong with the fact that a sedative assuages pain ...the words of the oxford English dictionary
calpol assuages pain and is therefore a sedative...those are your words and are complete rubbish
Don't try and re write the Oxford English Dictionary

Offline Benice

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #67 on: November 21, 2013, 11:15:19 PM »
Calpol is not a sedative and has no sedative properties..fact

Exactly and no amount of nitpicking, twisting and side swerving  by people who desperately want to believe that the McCanns sedated their children with Calpol, as suggested by Amaral, will make that true.     End of.


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Offline VIXTE

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #68 on: November 22, 2013, 01:37:21 AM »
It was and it did contain a mild sedative. Drugs were changed after 2009. I know when my kids were young it did.

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/aches-and-pains/medicines/calpol-night.html

You are twisting the truth.

Calpol is not the same as Calpol Night and Calpol is and extremely  mild type of paracetamol for babies and very small children, it would not even help reducing the very high temperature in children. I had to take my child to an ER when Calpol was not helping, and they offered Ibuprofen.

Calpol is nothing. Nothing. Just helps if the child has a mild sore throat or a little pain. And even if the parents have it, they might not use it.. or have it handy just if needed.

Amaral is very stupid regarding this issue!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #69 on: November 22, 2013, 07:46:27 AM »
If Goncalo Amaral wished to argue the claimed use of the word 'sedative' in any context, he would only need to refer to the Oxford English dictionary definition of the word 'sedative' as his defence !
Some posters on this forum have chosen to make more of this than is necessary !

Benice, as far as I have read not one person (me included) on this thread has suggested that either Kate or Gerry sedated their children with Calpol or any other substance !
Are you deliberately trying to take this thread off topic, AGAIN ?

 you may think you are making a clever argument..you are not..you are showing yourself to be ...derogative comment removed...sedatives act by depressing the CNS...calpol is an analgesic and does not supress the CNS. Just because calpol reduces pain it does not make it a sedative....
« Last Edit: November 22, 2013, 09:36:57 AM by Angelo222 »

Cariad

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #70 on: November 22, 2013, 07:55:57 AM »
100% correct Cariad, as per the Oxford dictionary definition of 'sedative' !
A 'sedative' assuages pain, it does not need to be sleep inducing !
Not my words, they are the austere words of the highly respected Oxford dictionary !
Some of our numbers on this forum seem to want to re-write the definition of the word in deference to the people of the Oxford dictionary !

I wonder why everybody is debating whether calpol causes drowsiness? I think I've already said that in my experience it doesn't, but I'll say it again just in case I didn't....

It did however 2. assuaging pain or allaying irritability or excitement.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sedative

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #71 on: November 22, 2013, 08:00:31 AM »
I wonder why everybody is debating whether calpol causes drowsiness? I think I've already said that in my experience it doesn't, but I'll say it again just in case I didn't....

It did however 2. assuaging pain or allaying irritability or excitement.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sedative

 everybody knows that Cariad but pat wants to convince us all that it is reasonable to call calpol a sedative..it isn't...

Cariad

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #72 on: November 22, 2013, 08:03:14 AM »
everybody knows that Cariad but pat wants to convince us all that it is reasonable to call calpol a sedative..it isn't...


Oh, it came across as though everybody was discussing whether Calpol causes drowsiness. I was just adding that I don't believe it does.....

Offline Angelo222

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #73 on: November 22, 2013, 09:14:25 AM »
Mr Amaral states in his book "The Truth of the Lie" that >

"The paternal grandfather stated that Kate gave the little girl - and also the twins - Calpol, a medication designed to facilitate falling asleep. That seems to be a common practice in Great Britain; they even talk about a " Calpol generation". In recent years, the possible presence of an antihistamine with sedative effects in Calpol has aroused great controversy. Recently, the same laboratory put Calpol Night on the market, whose ingredients clearly list that it contains an antihistamine.

The mother admits having taken some to Portugal. She insists though that there is no calming effect, its being composed solely of paracetamol and that she did not give any of it to her daughter during the holiday".
« Last Edit: November 22, 2013, 09:19:47 AM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline pinkblossoms

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #74 on: November 22, 2013, 09:28:48 AM »
Calpol Night was released into the market in September 2007 - four months after Madeleine McCann disappeared,


1.Calpol is a paediatric medication which is used to treat pain and fever
2.Its main ingredient is paracetemol.
3.Calpol is not a sedative and contains no sedative properties whatsoever.

Amaral needs to do some research  8-)(--)
« Last Edit: November 22, 2013, 10:59:42 AM by pinkblossoms »