Why People who suspect the McCanns get so angry at People who do not.

[pathfinder73]

ATTRACTA HARRON. - EDDIE (EVRD)

 A missing person, last seen returning from church, on foot, in N. Ireland.
 A missing person search did not reveal her whereabouts.
 The search of a suspect's 'totally burnt out vehicle' by forensic scientists did not reveal any evidence.
 A 'one minute' search by the EVRD identified a position in the rear passenger footwell where the dog alerted to the presence of human material.
 A sample was taken and when analysed revealed the victim's DNA.
 The enquiry then concentrated it's efforts on the suspect and the EVRD located the body of the woman in a river bank deposition site.
 Further searches identified a location where the EVRD alerted in the front bedroom of the offender's empty next door dwelling house.
 When interviewed the suspect admitted that the body had laid in the room for 1 hour prior to disposal. Forensic teams were unable to extract any forensic evidence despite being shown the exact position.

[Eleanor]

That is truly a tragedy !

Why?  Because you are unable to prove that The McCanns were responsible for the death of their daughter?

Why do you want to do this when you have absolutely no proof?

This is the tragedy of your own life.  And Shakespeare was quite definite about that.

[ferryman]

So the anthropologists differ in their opinion?? I have quoted the email exchange and Lenny Harper's view on the subject and given the depths of the cover ups, back biting and vested interests going on in Jersey it is not difficult to see why this item caused so much disagreement.

But you miss a very important point.

Let us say for the sake of argument it was a coconut or a piece of wood.

What is to prevent that implement being used to strike someone and kill them and for it to rest next to the victim?

Eddie did not alert because it was bone, he alerted because whatever the item was (and clearly there is a difference in opinion between the experts as to what it is in fact is) had cadaver scent on it.

There is no evidence of death at Haut de la Garene.

That's why the enquiry never became a murder enquiry.

[ferryman]

Dogs are reliable

In his report, Mark Harrison listed cases of success that offered a guarantee of reliability. And he asserted that if the dogs came to signal Maddie's death, then it would be a fact.

Details

High costs - Mark Harrison stressed the high cost of the dogs. Their daily rate amounted to one thousand euros; the cost of the trip for them and their handlers was of 2750. There was also the cost of the passport for the animals (450 euros), adding to the lodging, the food and the transportation of the vehicles that were necessary for the animals.

False positives – Eddie, the dog that specialized in cadaver odour detection, has never given a false alert. He has participated in approximately 200 searches in homicide scenarios in Great Britain and never signalled any products that derived from meat or any other food item.

Human blood – Keela was trained exclusively with human blood; blood that is subject to strict testing and which comes from hospitals. She locates contaminated guns, smells vehicles and clothing items, and accurately detects residues, even if the locations are subject to cleaning.

Confirmed by South Yorkshire Police in an Freedom of information answer, Eddie participated in exactly 37 cases.

And there is evidence from the files that at Praia da Luz Harrison distanced himself from several of the searches.

[Eleanor]

There is no evidence of death at Haut de la Garene.

That's why the enquiry never became a murder enquiry.

And that is why Mr. Harper was discredited.  He went off on some sort of crusade on the evidence of A Dog whose handler said that dog alerts aren't evidence.
But Mr. Grime pocketed £95,000 of the tax payers money on that.

There was never any evidence that any child was murdered.  That is a fact.

[ferryman]

"'False' positives are always a possibility; to date Eddie has not so indicated operationally or in training. In six years of operational deployment in over 200 criminal case searches the dog has never alerted to meat based and specifically pork foodstuffs designed for human consumption. Similarly the dog has never alerted to 'road kill', that is any other dead animal." (Martin Grime)

PdL certainly blotted Eddie's record.

Cuddle-cat (at least) was either an error of omission or an error of commission.

[Lace]

I thought he said that Eddie did NOT react to it.

No he said he did -



 > In training the dog has accurately  alerted to a 1 cm cube of pork soaked in

 petrol for 1 week and then burnt until only a residue remains.

 
 

[Redblossom]

Confirmed by South Yorkshire Police in an Freedom of information answer, Eddie participated in exactly 37 cases.

And there is evidence from the files that at Praia da Luz Harrison distanced himself from several of the searches.

37 cases?

And?

.....over 200 case searches.....

Not cases

Each case can involve more than one search/search area

E.g. Mccann case = 1 case = multiple searches

As well you know too......

[Eleanor]

PdL certainly blotted Eddie's record.

Cuddle-cat (at least) was either an error of omission or an error of commission.

We have all seen the Videos, and what a dog's breakfast they were.  Should anyone have had the temerity to produce those in Court.
However, anything is possible in Portugal wherein the lead detective gained a Conviction on a tortured confession.

But this won't ever happen again.  For this we must be truly thankful.

[ferryman]

37 cases?

And?

.....over 200 case searches.....

Not cases

Each case can involve more than one search/search area

E.g. Mccann case = 1 case = multiple searches

As well you know too......

In 6 years operational deployment and over 200 cases the dog has never alerted ...

(Martin Grime)

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/VOLUME_IXprocesso_2265.jpg

[ferryman]

We have all seen the Videos, and what a dog's breakfast they were.  Should anyone have had the temerity to produce those in Court.
However, anything is possible in Portugal wherein the lead detective gained a Conviction on a tortured confession.

But this won't ever happen again.  For this we must be truly thankful.

Has Amaral called Grime to testify for him at the libel trial?

[Eleanor]

Has Amaral called Grime to testify for him at the libel trial?

HAHAHAHAHA.  I don't think so.

[Eleanor]

Where have I ever stated that the McCann's or anybody else were responsible for the death of their daughter ?

Sorry.  Please forgive me.  So you think that Madeleine could still be alive.  Good one.

[Redblossom]

In 6 years operational deployment and over 200 cases the dog has never alerted ...

(Martin Grime)

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/VOLUME_IXprocesso_2265.jpg

Vol IX p. 2481

FALSE ALERTS

'False' positives are always a possibility; to date Eddie has not so indicated
operationally or in training. In six years of operational deployment in over 200
criminal case searches the dog has never alerted to meat based and
specifically pork foodstuffs designed for human consumption. Similarly the
dog has never alerted to 'road kill', that is any other dead animal.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P9/09_VOLUME_IXa_Page_2481.jpg

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

[AnneGuedes]

And there is evidence from the files that at Praia da Luz Harrison distanced himself from several of the searches.

No, there's nothing of that kind except in your dreams.