Author Topic: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.  (Read 21287 times)

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ferryman

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #105 on: December 08, 2013, 07:36:17 PM »
And your obsession with the man is absurd. Unless you can demonstrate that questions about his work in Portugal were raised in either of those American courtrooms.

It would take the American lawyers seconds to find the PdL videos on google! Seconds.

I will ask again.

Why, in the Sam Parker case, was Grime required to demonstrate the basic competence of his dog by tasking him to find a sample pair of pants laced with  a cadaver scent and hidden somewhere in the county jail?

Redblossom

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #106 on: December 08, 2013, 07:38:42 PM »
And your obsession with the man is absurd. Unless you can demonstrate that questions about his work in Portugal were raised in either of those American courtrooms.

It would take the American lawyers seconds to find the PdL videos on google! Seconds.

Kate Mccann said she was relieved when the dog alerted...shes not bothered it seems, neither is Gerry as he says they are incredibly unreliable, , not sure why FM is...you have patience of a saint, will leave him in your capable hands
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Lyall

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #107 on: December 08, 2013, 07:41:08 PM »
I will ask again.

Why, in the Sam Parker case, was Grime required to demonstrate the basic competence of his dog by tasking him to find a sample pair of pants laced with  a cadaver scent and hidden somewhere in the county jail?

I'm quoting you, ferry:

Because it was incompetent deployment of the dogs that primarily led to unjust suspicion falling on the McCanns -- and incompetent deployment of the dogs that keeps that notion alive to the present day.

Do you have any evidence from those American courtrooms that anyone in the US thinks he is "incompetent"?

ferryman

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #108 on: December 08, 2013, 07:42:19 PM »
I'm quoting you, ferry:

Because it was incompetent deployment of the dogs that primarily led to unjust suspicion falling on the McCanns -- and incompetent deployment of the dogs that keeps that notion alive to the present day.

Do you have any evidence from those American courtrooms that anyone in the US thinks he is "incompetent"?

I've not had access to the case files of those investigations.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #109 on: December 08, 2013, 07:45:27 PM »
And your obsession with the man is absurd. Unless you can demonstrate that questions about his work in Portugal were raised in either of those American courtrooms.

It would take the American lawyers seconds to find the PdL videos on google! Seconds.

 Im certainly not obsessed. Grime says the dogs alert have no evidential value...that's it as far as Im concerned, but posters keep raising the issue over and over again

Lyall

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #110 on: December 08, 2013, 07:47:08 PM »
I've not had access to the case files of those investigations.

Then why are you smearing him day in day out here and elsewhere?

Mr Grime has been tested in courtrooms.

I keep asking you why the McCanns took no action - well, there's one answer: he has credibility from work before and after Portugal.

Your smears haven't.

ferryman

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #111 on: December 08, 2013, 07:48:46 PM »
Do you have an answer to my question?

Why, in the Sam Parker case, was Grime required to demonstrate the basic competency of his dog by tasking him to find a sample pair of pants laced with a cadaver scent?

stephen25000

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #112 on: December 08, 2013, 07:49:42 PM »
Then why are you smearing him day in day out here and elsewhere?

Mr Grime has been tested in courtrooms.

I keep asking you why the McCanns took no action - well, there's one answer: he has credibility from work before and after Portugal.

Your smears haven't.

ferryman's fantasies are a matter of record.

His attacks on Mr. Grime, do hint at some connection with the mccanns.

It is irrational behaviour.

Lyall

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #113 on: December 08, 2013, 07:49:47 PM »
Im certainly not obsessed. Grime says the dogs alert have no evidential value...that's it as far as Im concerned, but posters keep raising the issue over and over again

Well, ferryman does. And the other chap.

They are obsessed with Mr Grime, davel.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #114 on: December 08, 2013, 07:51:37 PM »
I'm quoting you, ferry:

Because it was incompetent deployment of the dogs that primarily led to unjust suspicion falling on the McCanns -- and incompetent deployment of the dogs that keeps that notion alive to the present day.

Do you have any evidence from those American courtrooms that anyone in the US thinks he is "incompetent"?

For me,  what primarily led to my suspicion falling on the McCanns was common sense.
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Lyall

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #115 on: December 08, 2013, 07:53:18 PM »
ferryman's fantasies are a matter of record.

His attacks on Mr. Grime, do hint at some connection with the mccanns.

It is irrational behaviour.

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ferryman knows more than the US police, experts and defence attorneys who have tested Mr Grime? Nah.

ferryman

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #116 on: December 08, 2013, 08:00:02 PM »
If, as a trained nurse, you present yourself at a nursing agency and apply for work, the agency will look, alone, at your qualifications, and if they match, will employ you.  They won't look, in detail, at your track record.

Much the same for Grime presenting himself for work in the US.  If accreditation for his dogs was up to date, they'd have taken him.

Offline Angelo222

Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #117 on: December 08, 2013, 08:01:40 PM »
Your joking right?

There were no SUSPECTS at the time who were having their cars checked were there?


Really?  Then why was Murat and Malinka's cars included??   Just for fun??
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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ferryman

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #118 on: December 08, 2013, 08:04:30 PM »
Will add the link in an edit:

We also saw video played in the courtroom to demonstrate how another dog, Eddie, found a sample pair of pants hidden in the Walker County Jail that was perfumed with a cadaver scent. Eddie is an English Springer Spaniel belonging to Martin Grime, a world-renown forensic K-9 expert based in the United Kingdom.

http://www.scentevidence.com/2009/07/dog-debate-at-center-of-murder-case.html

Lyall

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #119 on: December 08, 2013, 08:06:04 PM »
If, as a trained nurse, you present yourself at a nursing agency and apply for work, the agency will look, alone, at your qualifications, and if they match, will employ you.  They won't look, in detail, at your track record.

Much the same for Grime presenting himself for work in the US.  If accreditation for his dogs was up to date, they'd have taken him.

Yes, but the attorneys trying to exclude dog alert evidence from those two trials will definitely have used every tool at their disposal, including Mr Grime's work in Portugal (and the videos, if they saw anything wrong with them).