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Offline Montclair

Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #165 on: December 09, 2013, 07:24:07 PM »
What is your basis for the assumption that I have a wish to implicate Robert Murat?

Don't make me say what I didn't say! I'm saying that you would have been happy and satisfied if the dogs had pointed to anyone other than the McCanns and would not have questioned their capabilities.

AnneGuedes

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #166 on: December 09, 2013, 07:45:48 PM »
There was no scent on cuddle-cat.
No cross contamination with certain pants ? Are you sure ?

Offline Admin

Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #167 on: December 11, 2013, 03:43:11 PM »
Dog inspection report of cars searched in subterranean
garage


Canine Inspection Report
Date 6 and 7 August 2007
Place Underground parking area of 1st of May Square, Portimao.
Participants: three PJ officers; two UK police experts; Eddy and Keela, the English Springer
[Spaniels]

THE ENTIRE WORK WAS RECORDED IN IMAGE AND SOUND [on video]

On 6 August 2007, at 15h17, a canine inspection was performed in the following motor cars, this
being done on level -4 of the above-mentioned underground car park:
[list of cars: Opel Corsa; Fiat Punto; Peugeot 205; Renault Scenic; Skodia Fabia; VW Transporter;
Nissan Patrol; VW Passat; Audi A4; Renault Kangoo.]
Thus, at the hour indicated the work began, with the dog Eddy, that detects cadaver odour,
examining the whole level of the underground car park where the vehicles were parked, it having
been verified the following result:
15h27 - the dog 'marked' car number 4 - Renault Scenic - rental vehicle currently used by Gerry
and Kate McCann.

Thus, the Renault Scenic vehicle was moved to parking level -3 and subjected to an expert
examination by officers from the Police Science Laboratory and another canine inspection that
began at 03h49 on 7 August 2007 by the dog Keela, that detects traces of human blood, it having
been verified the following result:
03h53 - the dog 'marked' an area of the lower right-hand side of the interior part of the baggage
compartment of the car;
04h11 - the dog 'marked' the 'tidy' compartment [map/glove pocket] on the side of the driver's door,
which was found to contain the car key, the plastic electronic card type, with a key-ring of the
Budget rental company.

In order to confirm that the dog had effectively 'marked' the car key, that was found in the
map/glove pocket on the side of the driver's door, at 04h13, that key was retrieved from the car
and concealed in a place far distant from the vehicle on parking level -3 of the underground car
park.
At 04h14, it was verified that the dog 'marked' the area of a sandbox [bucket of sand] of the Fire
System where the car key had been concealed beneath the sand.
At 04h50, a new inspection was performed by Eddy on the parking level -4 where the above car
key was concealed in an area far distant from the vehicle.
At 04h51, it was verified that the dog 'marked' the area of a sandbox [bucket of sand] of the Fire
System where the car key had been concealed beneath the sand.
... the present document has been duly signed:[/list]


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #168 on: December 18, 2013, 02:20:12 AM »
"The thing with blood is, it's got a very very low scent plume and the dog has to be very very close to it before (it alerts)."

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

AnneGuedes

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #169 on: December 18, 2013, 02:41:50 AM »
"The thing with blood is, it's got a very very low scent plume and the dog has to be very very close to it before (it alerts)."

That why Eddie goes first. It also indicates that the scent of blood can't invade the whole air of a closed place, unless there are huge quantities of it.

Offline colombosstogey

Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #170 on: December 18, 2013, 05:59:07 AM »
Dog inspection report of cars searched in subterranean
garage


Canine Inspection Report
Date 6 and 7 August 2007
Place Underground parking area of 1st of May Square, Portimao.
Participants: three PJ officers; two UK police experts; Eddy and Keela, the English Springer
[Spaniels]

THE ENTIRE WORK WAS RECORDED IN IMAGE AND SOUND [on video]

On 6 August 2007, at 15h17, a canine inspection was performed in the following motor cars, this
being done on level -4 of the above-mentioned underground car park:
[list of cars: Opel Corsa; Fiat Punto; Peugeot 205; Renault Scenic; Skodia Fabia; VW Transporter;
Nissan Patrol; VW Passat; Audi A4; Renault Kangoo.]
Thus, at the hour indicated the work began, with the dog Eddy, that detects cadaver odour,
examining the whole level of the underground car park where the vehicles were parked, it having
been verified the following result:
15h27 - the dog 'marked' car number 4 - Renault Scenic - rental vehicle currently used by Gerry
and Kate McCann.

Thus, the Renault Scenic vehicle was moved to parking level -3 and subjected to an expert
examination by officers from the Police Science Laboratory and another canine inspection that
began at 03h49 on 7 August 2007 by the dog Keela, that detects traces of human blood, it having
been verified the following result:
03h53 - the dog 'marked' an area of the lower right-hand side of the interior part of the baggage
compartment of the car;
04h11 - the dog 'marked' the 'tidy' compartment [map/glove pocket] on the side of the driver's door,
which was found to contain the car key, the plastic electronic card type, with a key-ring of the
Budget rental company.

In order to confirm that the dog had effectively 'marked' the car key, that was found in the
map/glove pocket on the side of the driver's door, at 04h13, that key was retrieved from the car
and concealed in a place far distant from the vehicle on parking level -3 of the underground car
park.
At 04h14, it was verified that the dog 'marked' the area of a sandbox [bucket of sand] of the Fire
System where the car key had been concealed beneath the sand.
At 04h50, a new inspection was performed by Eddy on the parking level -4 where the above car
key was concealed in an area far distant from the vehicle.
At 04h51, it was verified that the dog 'marked' the area of a sandbox [bucket of sand] of the Fire
System where the car key had been concealed beneath the sand.
... the present document has been duly signed:[/list]


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm

I expect the sand box (bucket of sand), had McCanns written in big black bold letters on the front.......  8-)(--)8()-000(

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #171 on: December 18, 2013, 03:15:54 PM »
Eddie detected cadaver scent in and out 5A, on the outside of car which was the scent he was chasing (blood scent too weak on key fob for that to happen - you require Keela in very close to alert to those tiny blood traces - key fob also cadaver contaminated as Eddie alerted to it buried under sand), on clothes and CC. IMO Eddie did indicate that a dead person had been in 5A at some time and in that car at some time.

A low level incomplete DNA profile which matched the corresponding components in the DNA profile of Gerald McCann was obtained from cellular material on the key card (286C/2007-CRL(12)).
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

AnneGuedes

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #172 on: December 18, 2013, 03:40:25 PM »
Eddie detected cadaver scent in and out 5A, on the outside of car which was the scent he was chasing (blood scent too weak on key fob for that to happen - you require Keela in very close to alert to those tiny blood traces - key fob also cadaver contaminated as Eddie alerted to it buried under sand), on clothes and CC. IMO Eddie did indicate that a dead person had been in 5A at some time and in that car at some time.

A low level incomplete DNA profile which matched the corresponding components in the DNA profile of Gerald McCann was obtained from cellular material on the key card (286C/2007-CRL(12)).
Eddie reacted only at the key card, which had minute blood (did Keela react to it ?) but could also have been contaminated (pants's pocket).

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #173 on: December 18, 2013, 06:14:23 PM »
The blood found in the boot by Keela is the missing key to me for a body being there. The authorities kept that part of the boot. Kate thinks that idea is unbelievable "It gets even more ludicrous that we’ve obviously hidden her somewhere incredibly well where nobody’s found her and we’d hidden her so well that we’d decided we’d move her in the car which we hired weeks later and you know, it’s just ridiculous."

"The police appeared to be telling us, on the say-so of a dog............."
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

AnneGuedes

  • Guest
Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #174 on: December 18, 2013, 06:30:45 PM »
The blood found in the boot by Keela is the missing key to me for a body being there. The authorities kept that part of the boot. Kate thinks that idea is unbelievable "It gets even more ludicrous that we’ve obviously hidden her somewhere incredibly well where nobody’s found her and we’d hidden her so well that we’d decided we’d move her in the car which we hired weeks later and you know, it’s just ridiculous."

"The police appeared to be telling us, on the say-so of a dog............."
I agree with her, though she knows and I guess...

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #175 on: December 18, 2013, 06:36:31 PM »
I don't think Madeleine is in PDL so if that's the case I think she was moved in a car.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

AnneGuedes

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Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #176 on: December 18, 2013, 06:40:19 PM »
I don't think Madeleine is in PDL so if that's the case I think she was moved in a car.
I think she left PDL on that very night (not walking nor carried by a walker).

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #177 on: December 18, 2013, 06:43:13 PM »
You don't think Smithman was carrying her?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

AnneGuedes

  • Guest
Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #178 on: December 18, 2013, 07:34:11 PM »
You don't think Smithman was carrying her?
He did, but he didn't leave PDL with her.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The deployment of the cadaver dogs in the underground garage.
« Reply #179 on: December 18, 2013, 07:40:07 PM »
He did, but he didn't leave PDL with her.

I think they should have got Eddie to check any apartments near that church such as Malinka's and any other leads as that's where Smithman was last seen in close proximity.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.