The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits

[AnneGuedes]

An answer in a case like this usually just gives rise to another set of questions, so what would be the point?

Questioning !

[AnneGuedes]

Kate believes that Tannerman and Smithman are the same man.

Had she another solution after 3 years of ignoring Smithman and another year of using Smithman as an evidence for Tannerman ?

[pathfinder73]

That is your opinion.  There still is no proof that Jane Tanners sighting was incorrect in any way.

Has anyone taken the time to wonder if SY have changed their minds about this man who we understand carried his child back from the Creche that way.  Maybe new evidence?
....  moderated   ...

If Tannerman was the abductor then he had to be hiding in the apartment when Gerry did his check and then left by way of the front door at 9.10pm. The same time that Jane leaves the tapas bar and walks up the road and spots him. He wouldn't have time to abduct Madeleine unless it happened that way. But that doesn't explain the Smithman sighting 45 minutes later or the open window. If this was a case of a pre-planned abduction then it must be the worst plan ever! You don't go walking the streets with an abducted child in your arms. That is a last resort and probably the only solution to a disaster that has happened!

[AnneGuedes]

If this was a case of a pre-planned abduction then it must be the worst plan ever!

The absurd part must have been pre-planned as well, in order not to look planned.

[pathfinder73]

The absurd part must have been pre-planned as well, in order not to look planned.

Yes I completely agree Anne.

[AnneGuedes]

I've already posted on this topic.... The Smith family (three of them) went back to PdL in May 2007. Why didn't the PJ organise an e-fit, or a police artist's drawing way back then?

One reason might be that the PJ didn't have the resources to do so... but then, why didn't they request help from the UK  police / Gardai back then?

Why asking questions that nobody here can answer ?
What are you insinuating with "resources" that the PJ "might not have" ? Are you speculating that there are no "artists" in Portugal capable to draw faceless or toothy or spotty guys ?

[slartibartfast]

The point I made was that the McCanns have,  since the very begining,  spoken out about how damaging speculation is

They must  be aware,  though,  that some of their own actions,  with no  explanation  offered,   are  bound  to provoke the very speculation they profess to abhor

You suggest that even if they  were  to be accountable for their decisions and actions  it would only serve to engender further questions

I disagree

Were the McCanns to give clear,  exact,  and unequivical  responses to the questions they  know    are being asked,  then it would almost certainly put an end to wild speculation

Coming back to the point in hand  ...  that of the McCanns removing the e fits  of the man the Smith family saw from their official website ...   you allude to there having, possibly,  been a  'good reason'  for them doing so   

Come then Sherlock,  speculate with us on what that  'good reason'  may have  been

Afterall,  by offering no explanation or reason themselves,  the McCanns have virtually  invited  us to do so

It would help those of us who struggle to see why they are not more open and why they need the services of various professional organisations.

[Anna]

I've already posted on this topic.... The Smith family (three of them) went back to PdL in May 2007. Why didn't the PJ organise an e-fit, or a police artist's drawing way back then?

One reason might be that the PJ didn't have the resources to do so... but then, why didn't they request help from the UK  police / Gardai back then?

Did they go back in may, after they had called the police in Ireland ?
 I only have basic information on this case.
 It is indeed strange, as to why no e fit was done at that time, if they travelled there to, I assume give evidence of their sighting to the police there.

[AnneGuedes]

I wasn't aware they hired the investigators 'specificly' to draw up efits of Smithman.

I was under the assumption they hired them to investigate.

If those investigators did happen to consider Tanners account useless (like anyone with half a braincell) & Smithman the strongest lead then that explains why efits were made. And why, after they were made they were shut away in a private investigators file for 5 years.

Brian (double glass) Kennedy paid a substantial part of the PIs' fees and he paid in order to find Madeleine. He was crooked by Metodo 3, I guess he was watching closely Halligen who, to get the job, first recruited qualified people. Those had no reason to investigate selectively.

[Carana]

Why asking questions that nobody here can answer ?
What are you insinuating with "resources" that the PJ "might not have" ? Are you speculating that there are no "artists" in Portugal capable to draw faceless or toothy or spotty guys ?

Did they back then?

[Carana]

Why asking questions that nobody here can answer ?
What are you insinuating with "resources" that the PJ "might not have" ? Are you speculating that there are no "artists" in Portugal capable to draw faceless or toothy or spotty guys ?

How many artists' drawings or e-fits did the PJ release to the public that they had made themselves?

[AnneGuedes]

Did they go back in may, after they had called the police in Ireland ?
 I only have basic information on this case.
 It is indeed strange, as to why no e fit was done at that time, if they travelled there to, I assume give evidence of their sighting to the police there.

They first alerted the PJ by phone (there's nothing about that call in the files, which gives an idea of the importance the PO who answered the phone gave to it ; but also you have to imagine the dozen of sightings that were daily drowning the PJ). The PJ sent Martin Smith to the Gardai where he testified and The Gardai alerted the LC which in turn alerted the PJ.
By then Robert M had been made an arguido (on the 15th), but evidence was missing. I think that the Smith were mainly called to PDL in the hope that they would identify Robert M.

[Lyall]

How many artists' drawings or e-fits did the PJ release to the public that they had made themselves?

That's not their modus operandi is it? And you can perhaps see why - they didn't want to release the information about the 9.15 'sighting' did they, and look what confusion that caused.

[Carana]

That's not their modus operandi is it? And you can perhaps see why - they didn't want to release the information about the 9.15 'sighting' did they, and look what confusion that caused.

It may not be.

I was just trying to think about AnneG's earlier post:

Why asking questions that nobody here can answer ?
What are you insinuating with "resources" that the PJ "might not have" ? Are you speculating that there are no "artists" in Portugal capable to draw faceless or toothy or spotty guys ?

[Carana]

Is it a mega issue when I ask fairly simple questions to which no one has an answer?

If so, why?