Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..

[Air Con]

Firstly, hello all. New here.

Was pointed in this direction by some of Anne's postings on another forum as this case has always intrigued me. But certainly not to the extent of knowledge shown by many posters.

Sorry this is so delayed.  Was interupted by other thngs when this was mainly finished.  Am posting anyway.  Please dont let it interrupt the flow of the thread.
I disagree with you here Davel.

1.  Almost for sure that was Madeleine in Zinat, in Morocco, being carried an the man/womans back.  It certainly wasn't Bushra.
[Zinat, in the Rif Mountains of Morocco is at the centre of the cannabis growing region of Morocco.  The cannabis region is vast and it supplies, IIRC at least 50% of the worlds cannabis]
Harems of children are kept in N Africa by European businessmen

2.  The little girl walking around the bank in Molenbeek, Brussels, was almost certainly Madeleine as well.  The little girl, not only looked like Madeleine ..but also.
a)  She had her type of lightly boned figure, movement and mannerisms.
b)  Her kilt colour was very interesting as was her Argll sweater.  That was not a cheap imitation kilt as usually worn by kids.  It appeared a real and quality kilt from the way it hung and moved, which indicates some Scottish connection and considerable wealth.  From the colour, I think I might know what tartan it was, but I aint sharing.
c)  Moleenbeek is the main port receiving Kif (cannabis] from the Rif Mountains
[Molenbeek is the main port for the Cannabis, from the Rif, to be sent to and processed before distributing around the World.]

3.  Madeleine was also sighted in Leh, remote and very high in the Himalayas, India.
[From memory 70 or 80% of all the hashish smoked in India comes into India via Leh.  Leh is on the old silk routes.

So three sightings in the three main Cannabis related places.  That is an enormous co-incidence



Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
— Auric Goldfinger,



For your infoCannabis = kif = hashish = lots of other drug names too.  Maybe Wspam can help with the names?  She seems to know about them

Secondly.

Really?

Are you seriously saying you believe that?

[Redblossom]

Welcome Air Con


 

[sadie]

I don't give a flying f... fling about Dr Amaral. He could be in prison for the rest of his life and it would mean literally nothing to me.

He is not my friend, nor my enemy. He holds no fascination for me at all.

Sadie, Madeleine has not been seen since may 2007. She is almost certainly dead. Even davel recognises that and hes... DAVEL!

If you mention the colour of her kilt again, as soon kind of special sign, I might actually cry in frustration!

First of all may i apologise for my not being around much.   Three significant family tragedies in less than 3 weeks ... and the effects still seriously affecting us are taking most of my time.

I am not fascinated by Amaral either, so we agree on something.

You are not party to some of the things that point to her being alive, but you are able to understand the massive co-incidences that she should have been sighted in the three main cannabis regions.  Three co-incidences all linked with Canabis and drug trafficking.

Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
— Auric Goldfinger,


Remember sightings of Madeleine:
1) Being carried on the back of a man/woman in the Rif mountains of Morocco, where most of the Worlds supply of cannabis is grown and an area where western business men keep harems of children.  In Morocco they call the basic stuff, Kif.

2) Walking around the bank in Molenbeek St John, Brussels,
Molenbeek St John is the main port for packaging, distribution and also for changing the nature of the basic Kif into the various forms of the drugs .. cannabis, hemp, hashish etc.  Molenbeek is also highly populated by Moroccan peeps from The Rif Mountains < another link

3)  Ley in the high Himalayas in India. 
This is the town thru which 70% -80% of the Hashish smoked in India enters the Country.  A remote spot, 2 days drive by an extraordinarily dangerous road from any major lowland town.  This small/ medium town appears to have little to offer except for intrepid mountaineers, yet boasts a well contructed air strip over a mile long.
I cannot imagine anyone normally taking a young child there for a hoiday.
It is on the ancient silk routes, along which various narcotic drugs passed both ways


If you were an investigator, investigating a certain person, then the overall colour of that kilt might be of great interest .... cos as I can assure you even in a tartan, if blurred /indistinct, the colours within the tartan would mix to a specific colour. 
Likewise that colour could be unscrambled to a specific tartan or maybe a few similar ones, depending on how sophisticated the "unscrambling" equipment was.

If that is worrying to you, get those tissues out and have a good blab.  Be my guest


I have reason to think that Madeleine was alive two years ago.  I cannot share this and it is by no means certian, in any case.
There was a further sighting reported in this forum, on a Mediteranean island last autumn

Sorry if you cant take it

[sadie]

They are a damn sight more accurate than other people's witness statements which changed, were inconsistent and generally unbelievable.

Hey ho...tick tock goes the clock. You can fool some of the people all the time or all of the people some of the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

The public are sick of the McCircus. The amount of public money spent on what should and could have been a relatively straightforward crime is obscene.

My bet is that in unscrambling the Madeleine case, several others will be unscrambled as well.

Just like in the Jimmy Saville case.

[AnneGuedes]

First of all may i apologise for my not being around much.   

You're forgiven, don't worry !

[sadie]

You're forgiven, don't worry !

   

That's OK then!

[Wonderfulspam]

First of all may i apologise for my not being around much.   Three significant family tragedies in less than 3 weeks ... and the effects still seriously affecting us are taking most of my time.

I am not fascinated by Amaral either, so we agree on something.

You are not party to some of the things that point to her being alive, but you are able to understand the massive co-incidences that she should have been sighted in the three main cannabis regions.  Three co-incidences all linked with Canabis and drug trafficking.

Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
— Auric Goldfinger,


Remember sightings of Madeleine:
1) Being carried on the back of a man/woman in the Rif mountains of Morocco, where most of the Worlds supply of cannabis is grown and an area where western business men keep harems of children.  In Morocco they call the basic stuff, Kif.

2) Walking around the bank in Molenbeek St John, Brussels,
Molenbeek St John is the main port for packaging, distribution and also for changing the nature of the basic Kif into the various forms of the drugs .. cannabis, hemp, hashish etc.  Molenbeek is also highly populated by Moroccan peeps from The Rif Mountains < another link

3)  Ley in the high Himalayas in India. 
This is the town thru which 70% -80% of the Hashish smoked in India enters the Country.  A remote spot, 2 days drive by an extraordinarily dangerous road from any major lowland town.  This small/ medium town appears to have little to offer except for intrepid mountaineers, yet boasts a well contructed air strip over a mile long.
I cannot imagine anyone normally taking a young child there for a hoiday.
It is on the ancient silk routes, along which various narcotic drugs passed both ways


If you were an investigator, investigating a certain person, then the overall colour of that kilt might be of great interest .... cos as I can assure you even in a tartan, if blurred /indistinct, the colours within the tartan would mix to a specific colour. 
Likewise that colour could be unscrambled to a specific tartan or maybe a few similar ones, depending on how sophisticated the "unscrambling" equipment was.

If that is worrying to you, get those tissues out and have a good blab.  Be my guest


I have reason to think that Madeleine was alive two years ago.  I cannot share this and it is by no means certian, in any case.
There was a further sighting reported in this forum, on a Mediteranean island last autumn

Sorry if you cant take it

Stoner Suspects   
 

[AnneGuedes]

   

That's OK then!

Take your time, as long as you wish !

[sadie]

Take your time, as long as you wish !

Thanks anne.  
Have long  realised that you try and destroy or get rid of Peeps that destroy your myths with logic and fact. 

[pathfinder73]

Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
— Auric Goldfinger,

For a laff:

1. Suspect last seen heading towards church
2. Gerry asking for directions to church (alibi in case he was said to be seen there earlier but 4-7am is now ok if he's seen there)
3. Gerry getting keys to church

LOL

[AnneGuedes]

Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
— Auric Goldfinger,

For a laff:

1. Suspect last seen heading towards church
2. Gerry asking for directions to church (alibi in case he was said to be seen there earlier but 4-7am is now ok if he's seen there)
3. Gerry getting keys to church

LOL

Don't spend too much time on that key ! Holding a church key is a mcmania.

[pathfinder73]

Don't spend too much time on that key ! Holding a church key is a mcmania.

It's a pity there wasn't a camera there because that's where Smithman went in the vicinity of that church. He knew where he was heading IMO. Too many coincidences in regards to the church location to ignore it.

[AnneGuedes]

It's a pity there wasn't a camera there because that's where Smithman went in the vicinity of that church. He knew where he was heading IMO. Too many coincidences in regards to the church location to ignore it.

I wonder if he thought that a camera could catch him.
Churches and their immediate environment are sanctuaries in most people's mental representations.

[Sherlock Holmes]

Sadie,

Can you tell us what you think the significance of the kilt is?

Are you wondering if it is possible to identify the child by a clan attachment, or something similar?

[j.rob]

POW ! 
 
BRILLIANT OBSERVATION ... 

But obviously there are a lot of criminals that don't get caught. And there again there are people who are wrongly convicted of crimes. Or those who find themselves facing trumped up charges, or who fall into judicial cleft sticks. Or those who are so unpopular with criminals (especially ones that have been caught) that the criminals and those who support them will do absolutely anything to try to throw some dirt at them and get it to stick.

A bit like that poor murdered child Joana's mother who lied that she had been beaten up.  But why would a murderer tell the truth?