Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?

[pegasus]

bedtime in which room IYO?

[pathfinder73]

All children in the same bedroom. May have been different on earlier nights but not the night before when Kate slept in the spare bed. There's more to that incident than it being merely trivial IMO. If it's a jigsaw then you have to connect the pieces to get the full picture.

Time to get some shut eye.

[pegasus]

ok so that gives a sequence of 4 locations, (north bedrm, lounge, south bedrm, gdn)
interesting that room 1 itself has no signal, whereas room 2 has a signal
 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I know about  tamsin silences statement...whats  the big deal about it? Did she know everyone who was there and who should havebeen and who shouldnt  have been?

No, but I do think there were aspects to her testimony that could have been relevant.

If you have a quick look at wonderfulspam's thread on her (Dark Glasses Man), I wrote a few of my thoughts there.

[colombosstogey]

According to the System for Internal Safety (SSI), which collates information from the country’s various security forces in the ALGARVE (the most popular part of Portugal for holidays)in 2012 there were 66 reported incidences.

Residential burglaries in the Algarve made up 6.5 percent of the national total in 2010-2012.

So in 2007 the figures would have been even less. The stats dont actually STACK up do they to all these burglaries in one tiny town....or are we to assume the 6.5 percent belonged to PDL. >@@(*&)

[Victoria]

Joanna Yeates case: Her killer Vincent Tabak claimed he 'accidentally' killed her, by making her stop screaming..i.e. by pressing his hand over her mouth..

Yes, sadly even easier to do with a small child. A burglar picking a child up, placing a firm hand across the mouth/face to keep them quiet while figuring out what to do with them, could accidentally kill them.

[Victoria]

Sorry to drift off topic but it's just one post in reply.

Other than through the dogs, cadaver scent is non detectable whilst all the other traces that you mentioned are. I would imagine on that basis that Amaral is basing his opinion on the absence of all other detectable evidence.

Amaral misunderstood both the low copy DNA and the dog evidence, it's as simple as that. And his officers overplayed their hand in the arguido interviews to try and bluff a confession. Little did they know they were dealing with two innocent people who weren't prepared to be bullied.

[Wonderfulspam]

Amaral misunderstood both the low copy DNA and the dog evidence, it's as simple as that. And his officers overplayed their hand in the arguido interviews to try and bluff a confession. Little did they know they were dealing with two innocent people who weren't prepared to be bullied.

We are yet to see any proof they didn't murder her.

[jassi]

Yes, sadly even easier to do with a small child. A burglar picking a child up, placing a firm hand across the mouth/face to keep them quiet while figuring out what to do with them, could accidentally kill them.

I don't think so. At the first whiff of discovery, albeit by a small child, any burglar would be straight out the door and away, fast as they could.

[jassi]

We are yet to see any proof they didn't murder her.

I can't see a motive for murder - accidental death and disposal of body - yes, but not murder.

[Victoria]

I don't think so. At the first whiff of discovery, albeit by a small child, any burglar would be straight out the door and away, fast as they could.

Too much of a sweeping statement. Most burglars, yes. All burglars, no.

[jassi]

Too much of a sweeping statement. Most burglars, yes. All burglars, no.

We don't even know there was a burglar, let alone an exceptionally bold one - its all supposition.

[Redblossom]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10390183/Girl-smuggled-into-Britain-to-have-her-organs-harvested.html

Stats for the UK

70 (13%) were aged up to nine years old-
http://www.nspcc.org.uk/Inform/resourcesforprofessionals/childtrafficking/child-trafficking-statistics_wda96895.html

Thanks, but......

The number of 70 has nothing  to do with trafficked for organs, the number was actually 1 ie ONE
And  look at the countries...vietnam, nigeria, china.....not from a holiday apartment in portugal! Sorry, I dont consider ths a serious possibility at all..

[jassi]

Thanks, but......

The number of 70 has nothing  to do with trafficked for organs, the number was actually 1 ie ONE
And  look at the countries...vietnam, nigeria, china.....not from a holiday apartment in portugal! Sorry, I dont consider ths a serious possibility at all..

Of course it isn't. Its merely an irrelevance dragged in to create distraction.

[Redblossom]

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That is not my theory... but it is possible that the certain thief gets an order for a child.. if it is paid well he wouldn't care what it is..


When Greek authorities recently searched for the parents for the little Greek girl found in the gypsy camp.. thousands of parents from all over the world contacted the Greek police, checking whether she was their child.. this only tells how many children are uncounted for..

No they didn't, thousands of calls and emails were reportedly received after the appeal but no where have I read they were all from families with missing kids!