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Offline colombosstogey

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #285 on: January 16, 2014, 06:43:33 AM »
What's the use to have a cellphone if you don't have it with you ?
People who choose the cheapest week of the year don't bring jewels, or if they do they have them on.
Passports ? Ask the police, they're very difficult to modify, nobody is interested by them in Europe.

PDL doesnt strike me as a place to steal jewellery from tourists as its just for me a little town popular for families.  Not Monaco or Nice....

I note one of the residents neary got burgled was the other burglary done to a RESIDENT?

Lets be honest when you go on holiday, you usually put your passport in a safe (actually a lot of places now take them OFF YOU). The normal thing is to take as minimal stuff as you can.

MOST people now take a small digital camera or use their mobile phones for taking photos and MOST people carry their phones and cameras with them even at night for that PHOTO.

I do know people who take tablets on holiday now, even as far away as Bangkok and not one robbery.

IF you do take these things on holiday you usually LOCK them up either in a safe or in you suitcase, or you carry them.....and then you secure the room.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #286 on: January 16, 2014, 07:05:35 AM »
If PDL in April and May was not a place our usual burglar would visit at this time of the year then why these three burglaries in the same building happened in April and May 2007?




Offline jassi

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #287 on: January 16, 2014, 08:22:33 AM »
If PDL in April and May was not a place our usual burglar would visit at this time of the year then why these three burglaries in the same building happened in April and May 2007?

Perhaps he was there  on holiday  ?{)(**
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #288 on: January 16, 2014, 08:58:28 AM »
Taken at face value (as it should be IMO), the open state of the window (IMO truthfully described), combined with the absence of any sign of entry or exit through that window, says clearly: an intended burglary commenced but disturbed at a very early stage, just IMO.

A good point and very possible but that doesn't explain the disappearance unless Madeleine was wakened by the intruder and walked out looking for daddy.
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Offline Carana

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #289 on: January 16, 2014, 09:09:54 AM »
WHAT overall police presence?

I asked someone who lives there she laughed lol....this is quiet PDL a place for families not for the usual yob culture.

ALSO if there had been police presence in PDL in May no one would have had to ring the police, as they would still be around or close by.....surely.

I didn't say "overall presence". I said in the "overall area". More units to despatch to different locations in the event of competing incidents to attend to.

Offline pegasus

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #290 on: January 17, 2014, 12:55:34 AM »
A good point and very possible but that doesn't explain the disappearance unless Madeleine was wakened by the intruder and walked out looking for daddy.
An intended burglary, disturbed at very beginning, agreed it doesn't directly explain the disappearance, but IMO it does make some actions likely, which would otherwise be unlikely, going outside being just one example IMO.
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AnneGuedes

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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #291 on: January 18, 2014, 12:28:33 AM »
Has anybody watched this ? Could it have inspired SY ?

Estuarine

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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #292 on: January 18, 2014, 02:30:33 PM »
Has anybody watched this ? Could it have inspired SY ?


Anne you are wicked  8((()*/

AnneGuedes

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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #293 on: January 18, 2014, 03:04:14 PM »
Anne you are wicked  8((()*/
Perhaps.. Though in that story the little girl asks for being abducted..
Doesn't this one remind you Tannerfacelessman ?

drummer

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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #294 on: January 18, 2014, 06:44:24 PM »
Some things inspire some more than others Anne, I would have imagined that an image of a mangled wreck or a constant reminder of  the breathalyser in a Policeman's pocket would deter most serving officers to stop drink driving, but then each to their own eh?

Offline Luz

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #295 on: January 18, 2014, 08:19:12 PM »
Re SY investigating 3 mobilesall in PDL and communicating with each other that night.

I already listed one example of calls/txts between 3 mobiles (2 portuguese 1 foreign)
I see no sign they are burglars

Heres another example of a triple link in the files. A T9 UK mobile, a UK mobile, and a UK landline, all communicate with each other. Was highlighted because it looked suspicious, but it is not (although the experts were still puzzling over it)

I'm afraid the British public is going to be disappointed because there were no burglaries (home invasions or attempts) reported in the Ocean Club or whereabouts in 2007.

Offline pegasus

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #296 on: January 18, 2014, 08:44:08 PM »
I'm afraid the British public is going to be disappointed because there were no burglaries (home invasions or attempts) reported in the Ocean Club or whereabouts in 2007.
Apartment 5G (although not owned by Ocean Club) is immediately above 5A, and very clearly an interrupted burglary attempt in April 2007 is reported there, it is in the files, do you want link?.

P.S. However IMO the 3 people intercommunicating by mobiles that night are likely to be searchers, NOT burglar(s).
IMO a lone burglar is far more likely than a gang of 3.
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Redblossom

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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #297 on: January 18, 2014, 08:48:08 PM »
Apartment 5G (although not owned by Ocean Club) is immediately above 5A, and very clearly an interrupted burglary attempt in April 2007 is reported there, it is in the files, do you want link?.

Even if there were 2 or 200 burglaries, there is no precedent for a burglar being disturbed by a child and abducting it!  No one has, after beng asked numerous times, been able to provide such "evidence"

Its bloody nonsense IMO!

AnneGuedes

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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #298 on: January 18, 2014, 09:09:07 PM »
Apartment 5G (although not owned by Ocean Club) is immediately above 5A, and very clearly an interrupted burglary attempt in April 2007 is reported there, it is in the files, do you want link?.
Do you know another one ?

Offline pegasus

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #299 on: January 18, 2014, 09:17:01 PM »
Even if there were 2 or 200 burglaries, there is no precedent for a burglar being disturbed by a child and abducting it!  No one has, after beng asked numerous times, been able to provide such "evidence"

Its bloody nonsense IMO!

Agreed 101%, this child was not taken by a burglar.
What I am suggesting is different: that there WAS a burglar that night, who did NOT take the child.

Being disturbed by a burglar beginning to enter window would trigger (if in a bed rather than a highsided cot) fleeing into another room and (in the unusual case of no adults present) a heightened risk of accident.

BTW there was an attempted burglary in PDL in 2006 where  a burglar entered, was disturbed by a child, and fled empty handed.
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