Mrs Fenn and that crying child incident revisited.

[John]

Thanks for finding that video Anna.  Not once does she deny saying that she heard crying from downstairs because it is true and as properly recorded in her police statement.  The rubbish is the crap the press were printing as per the norm.

[John]

Not released or not translated?

Leicestershire police did the statement and the indentikit so it must have been sent to the PJ and translated, just never released with the files however.

Pamela Fenn statement.

Carole Tranmer rogatory statement.

During the interview, Carole TRANMER provided the following evidence:
 CT/10 ' Outline of Ocean Club apartment block
 CT/11 ' Outline of the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz
 CT/12 ' A photograph taken from the terrace of apartment 5G on Sunday, the 29th of April, 2007
 At 11h10 of this same day I collected three pieces of evidence from Carole Tranmer.

[misty]

Not released or not translated?

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She made her original statement to Leicester police on 8th May 2007 & compiled a computerised efit with the help of a young man from Reading.
Another one we are not supposed to see in case it corrupts the agenda.

[Brietta]

Mrs Fenn saying it is rubbish

Last night the McCanns got a boost when the police case appeared to be undermined by a pensioner who is potentially a key witness.
Pamela Fenn, 81, lives above the apartment where Madeleine disappeared and is reported to have told police she heard Madeleine screaming below.
But yesterday she broke her silence to say it was "absolute rubbish" she had made any such claims to police. Mrs Fenn said: "I didn't even know that family was in t

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WOW!!! How do you manage it Anna ... the item I saw was of course in English ... 

[John]

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She made her original statement to Leicester police on 8th May 2007 & compiled a computerised efit with the help of a young man from Reading.
Another one we are not supposed to see in case it corrupts the agenda.

Question is, was the original statement and the identikit of a man aged in his 30's with short blonde hair actually ever sent to Portugal?

[misty]

Question is, was the original statement and the identikit of a man aged in his 30's with short blonde hair actually ever sent to Portugal?

She was asked to provide a rogatory statement to Leicester police, & in during the interview, which was taped, she is shown her original statement of 8th May 2007 & asked to confirm it was correct. The PJ also sent over an efit, which turned out to be the one provided by Tamsiin Sillence rather than Carole's. So, I think it is clear the PJ did have Carole's original statement & efit and chose to suppress the efit, for whatever reason.

[Silkywhiskers]

Well, however she said it,

WHY DID HER PARENTS GO OUT AGAIN THE NEXT NIGHT AND LEAVE HER ALONE TO WAKE AND CRY AND BE FRIGHTENED?

[misty]

Well, however she said it,

WHY DID HER PARENTS GO OUT AGAIN THE NEXT NIGHT AND LEAVE HER ALONE TO WAKE AND CRY AND BE FRIGHTENED?

You are accepting she was alive & capable of doing that when they went out, then?

[misty]

No.

How on earth do you get that?

You asked how the parents could go out & leave her to wake up scared, alone & crying.
A child has to be alive to do that.
 Therefore you must be accepting Madeleine was alive when they went to the bar for dinner and misfortune befell her in the hour & a half after (during which time they managed to do the washing, deep clean the apartment,, dispose of the body and still consume copious amounts of wine at the dinner table).

[misty]

Losing your grip on the English language I see...

I asked "Why did they do that?".

NOWHERE did I state that "they did that".  I asked a rhetorical question designed to provoke some thought and common sense among those who refuse to question a damn word of the fairytale.

Which, in case you haven't noticed, fits my theory that they are not telling the truth about the events of that night.

It's hardly a rhetorical question when it wasn't just Madeleine who had woken up & cried.

[Martina]

You are accepting she was alive & capable of doing that when they went out, then?

It doesn't matter if Silkywhiskers accepts it or not. This is the McCanns version of events, that Maddie told them she had cried the night before, yet they left her and her siblings alone again. So how a couple of allegedly loving parents could do something like that?

[Silkywhiskers]

It doesn't matter if Silkywhiskers accepts it or not. This is the McCanns version of events, that Maddie told them she had cried the night before, yet they left her and her siblings alone again. So how a couple of allegeldy loving parents could do something like that?

I have my own experience with something like this, and I can tell you FIRST HAND, that a caring mother is totally incapable of leaving her babies to fend for themselves while she skips off to have a good time.

Actually physically impossible.

Your mind is on your babies.  What if someone breaks in? What if I left the iron on? What if they cry and I can't hear them and they are frightened?

We are designed by nature to be our children's carers, their entire world, their safety, their sense of home and love.

Leaving them alone to wake and cry in a dark foreign hotel room for HOURS is physically impossible for a loving mum.

Mothers even struggle with leaving their fully grown TEENAGERS alone, let alone three helpless babies.

[John]

It is curious that so many alleged checks were going on in the hours before Madeleine disappeared when we know from the evidence that the children were left to bawl and cry on previous nights with this going on for an hour and fifteen minutes on the Tuesday according to Mrs Fenn,

[jassi]

It is curious that so many alleged checks were going on in the hours before Madeleine disappeared when we know from the evidence that the children were left to bawl and cry on previous nights with this going on for an hour and fifteen minutes on the Tuesday according to Mrs Fenn,

And the irony is that nothing bad happened to any of the children on those nights, whereas on the night of the excessive checking, one managed to go missing.

[Mr Gray]

It is curious that so many alleged checks were going on in the hours before Madeleine disappeared when we know from the evidence that the children were left to bawl and cry on previous nights with this going on for an hour and fifteen minutes on the Tuesday according to Mrs Fenn,

according to mrs fenn....