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Offline Lace

Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2014, 06:02:35 PM »
Supposing the burglars were working for someone body else or working for another gang?     What if they were roped in to abduct  Madeleine as they had ways of getting into the apartment?

Offline jassi

Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2014, 06:09:38 PM »
Supposing the burglars were working for someone body else or working for another gang?     What if they were roped in to abduct  Madeleine as they had ways of getting into the apartment?

If this plot involves a number of people, how then have they managed to keep it a secret, with not a sign of what happened to Madeleine? A secret shared is no secret and somebody, particularly a petty crook, would have said something to someone.

I'm sure that no such gang was involved in this disappearing act.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Redblossom

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Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2014, 06:09:47 PM »
Supposing the burglars were working for someone body else or working for another gang?     What if they were roped in to abduct  Madeleine as they had ways of getting into the apartment?

Burglars are not child traffickers or abductors..how many times?...but traffickers and child abductors can be, by the very nature of what is involved, but that is not what they are in this sense, I see the difference....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2014, 06:09:56 PM »
Supposing the burglars were working for someone body else or working for another gang?     What if they were roped in to abduct  Madeleine as they had ways of getting into the apartment?

That is certainly more or less what I meant.  Employ burglars to break in and steal a child instead of passports, money or the odd computer.
It makes sense to me.

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2014, 06:13:04 PM »
None of these involved abduction though did they of adults or children? I dare say if someone reported a burglary and their child was stolen  it would be reported and documented

To be honest Red, between all the reports there were huge numbers of cases cited, covering all different types of crimes. Nothing about abduction jumped out; it would indeed be a rarity for a burglar to abduct.

Nonetheless, the central point remains that criminals are flexible, however odd it may sound. We have been channelled into thinking about crime in a certain way, in response to statistics as they used to appear -with everything compartmentalised. It seems that that is not the reality, something which is in keeping with what psychology says about  personality in general, namely that people don't compartmentalise. A person who is angry and unpleasant to one person is capable of being angry to another person and probably to everyone, because these problems are lying within the person himself - not, however much he or others may wish to interpret the situation, with the people who are the targets of his anger. Those people are merely the occasion.

As far as all this pertains to Madeleine, it may well have been that those burglars around in PdL before that night were involved in a group of criminals who were engaged, seperately and together, in all different types of crime, and that Madeleine somehow became the victim of an unfortunate cocktail of persons and events.
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Offline Lace

Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2014, 06:21:20 PM »
Burglars are not child traffickers or abductors..how many times?...but traffickers and child abductors can be, by the very nature of what is involved, but that is not what they are in this sense, I see the difference....

Depends on how much they were offered and how much they needed the money.

Redblossom

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Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2014, 06:21:50 PM »
To be honest Red, between all the reports there were huge numbers of cases cited, covering all different types of crimes. Nothing about abduction jumped out; it would indeed be a rarity for a burglar to abduct.

Nonetheless, the central point remains that criminals are flexible, however odd it may sound. We have been channelled into thinking about crime in a certain way, in response to statistics as they used to appear -with everything compartmentalised. It seems that that is not the reality, something which is in keeping with what psychology says about  personality in general, namely that people don't compartmentalise. A person who is angry and unpleasant to one person is capable of being angry to another person and probably to everyone, because these problems are lying within the person himself - not, however much he or others may wish to interpret the situation, with the people who are the targets of his anger. Those people are merely the occasion.

As far as all this pertains to Madeleine, it may well have been that those burglars around in PdL before that night were involved in a group of criminals who were engaged, seperately and together, in all different types of crime, and that Madeleine somehow became the victim of an unfortunate cocktail of persons and events.

Dont believe that myself, too convoluted.....jmo

AnneGuedes

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Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2014, 06:23:50 PM »
there are obviously many others involving all different types of crime. But the point is that criminals are 'flexible'.

Any statistician, be sure of that, is aware of the flexibility of human kind. Statistics is not only mathematics !

AnneGuedes

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Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2014, 06:25:10 PM »
Dont believe that myself, too convoluted.....jmo
Too much "les trois brigands" style... What if Madeleine finally asked to be abducted ?

AnneGuedes

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Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2014, 06:28:25 PM »
it may well have been that those burglars around in PdL before that night were involved in a group of criminals
Have you a credible source for that, SH ?

Redblossom

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Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2014, 06:28:51 PM »
Too much "les trois brigands" style... What if Madeleine finally asked to be abducted ?

Thats citing the sublime to the ridiculous but some of these theories are not much different...not in content but in possibilities IMO

AnneGuedes

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Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2014, 06:37:39 PM »
Thats citing the sublime to the ridiculous but some of these theories are not much different...not in content but in possibilities IMO
Multiplying the possibilities towards the infinite, each more implausible than the other, keeps away from the simple, understandable reality.

Redblossom

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Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2014, 06:45:20 PM »
Multiplying the possibilities towards the infinite, each more implausible than the other, keeps away from the simple, understandable reality.

But when it gets ridiculous the show is over imo.....circus closed, come back next year....or hopefully NOT, the show is over soon

BBL

(thats be back later in text speak)
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Cariad

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Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2014, 07:06:36 PM »
To be honest Red, between all the reports there were huge numbers of cases cited, covering all different types of crimes. Nothing about abduction jumped out; it would indeed be a rarity for a burglar to abduct.

Nonetheless, the central point remains that criminals are flexible, however odd it may sound. We have been channelled into thinking about crime in a certain way, in response to statistics as they used to appear -with everything compartmentalised. It seems that that is not the reality, something which is in keeping with what psychology says about  personality in general, namely that people don't compartmentalise. A person who is angry and unpleasant to one person is capable of being angry to another person and probably to everyone, because these problems are lying within the person himself - not, however much he or others may wish to interpret the situation, with the people who are the targets of his anger. Those people are merely the occasion.

As far as all this pertains to Madeleine, it may well have been that those burglars around in PdL before that night were involved in a group of criminals who were engaged, seperately and together, in all different types of crime, and that Madeleine somehow became the victim of an unfortunate cocktail of persons and events.

In prisons, people who have committed crimes against children are kept away from the general population, as even criminals have standards. A rapist may also steal, but even murderers revile paedophiles.

 
« Last Edit: January 20, 2014, 07:18:52 AM by Cariad »

AnneGuedes

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Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2014, 07:07:08 PM »
But when it gets ridiculous the show is over imo.....circus closed, come back next year....or hopefully NOT, the show is over soon
Ite missa est.