Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??

[Eleanor]

This could have been three individuals getting together to do a much larger job, which obviously would have required some planning and coordination.  And quite a lot of them do know each other.  Possibly from previous prison terms.

They would have known that this would cause some fuss, even in Portugal, so no chance of them splitting on each other to get a Reward which would only have involved them in going to prison again.
And besides Criminals are not allowed to benefit from their Crimes.  And The Sun would have raised merry hell anyway.

Just which Police Force would have accepted that the informer was only telling on others?  Jeez.  Nope, I don't want to speculate about that.  But, No Reward.

Apart from the location as a possible place to abduct a child, Praia de Luz isn't all that important.  It could have been anywhere in the area.

[sadie]

Sadies got one too, they were both beamed back and photoed together in morocco! Two abductees by or for same peasant family
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Aw gawd, what a pity.  Dont have .... not even a cell phone .... lost about 10 years ago and never bothered to replace.

Now that would be the way forward ... to have an extra terrestial link.

Surely you have one Red ? 

[Heriberto Janosch]

I do not know if my hypothesis is right.

My hypothesis involves one by then Ocean Club employee, with a previous record of theft (someone called him Heribertoman here, and of course he was not the black dead man Euclides).

I have sent his name to Scotland Yard Operation Grange and Polícia Judiciária Oporto teams in June 2013, along with many details I can not publish yet. I also have sent to both of them, in June 2013, two more things: (a) data of two additional OC employees who may be related to Heribertoman, and (b) data of a fourth OC employee who may know about the burglaries.

Some of the information given in Crimewatch TV program of October 14th. 2013 is directly related to Heribertoman.

I think Madeleine was caught because the burglar felt she may recognize him.

[Lyall]

Which information from Crimewatch?

[pathfinder73]

I do not know if my hypothesis is right.

My hypothesis involves one by then Ocean Club employee, with a previous record of theft (someone called him Heribertoman here, and of course he was not the black dead man Euclides).

I have sent his name to Scotland Yard Operation Grange and Polícia Judiciária Oporto teams in June 2013, along with many details I can not publish yet. I also have sent to both of them, in June 2013, two more things: (a) data of two additional OC employees who may be related to Heribertoman, and (b) data of a fourth OC employee who may know about the burglaries.

Some of the information given in Crimewatch TV program of October 14th. 2013 is directly related to Heribertoman.

I think Madeleine was caught because the burglar felt she may recognize him.

Does he look similar to the Smithman efits?

[AnneGuedes]

Does he look similar to the Smithman efits?

[sadie]

Praia da Luz is far too small a village for any real long term burglary to go on by organised groups.  The professional burglar knows that if he strikes the same area twice the police are more likely to want to do something about it.  My own feelings are that the thefts in and around PdL were the work of petty thieves and opportunists who were looking for cash and jewellery to sell quickly.

Had there been a gang in the area I have no doubt the GNR would have squashed them quickly.

John, PdL isn't big, but it isn't tiny either.  It is almost small town size, I guess.  Stetches west along the coast quite a bit. 
1.9 miles [3.1 km] east-west
x
0.7 miles [1.2 km] north-south

Quite densely populated in some areas cos of buildings being several storeys high and divided into apartments, but still somehow has a feeling of coziness and spaciousness !   Good architecture, I guess by mainly architect Robin Crossland, who was joint owner of OC and other blocks of holiday apartments with David Symington and (forgotten his first name) Garveigh.    Fairly unpopulated in other areas.

Only a smallish shopping centre tho, from memory.


Has a cozy and quiet village feel but really is quite sizeable

[icabodcrane]

I do not know if my hypothesis is right.

My hypothesis involves one by then Ocean Club employee, with a previous record of theft (someone called him Heribertoman here, and of course he was not the black dead man Euclides).

I have sent his name to Scotland Yard Operation Grange and Polícia Judiciária Oporto teams in June 2013, along with many details I can not publish yet. I also have sent to both of them, in June 2013, two more things: (a) data of two additional OC employees who may be related to Heribertoman, and (b) data of a fourth OC employee who may know about the burglaries.

Some of the information given in Crimewatch TV program of October 14th. 2013 is directly related to Heribertoman.

I think Madeleine was caught because the burglar felt she may recognize him.

You say you have shared your theory with Scotland Yard an the Portuguese police Heriberto,  out of curiousity,  did you also share it with the  Mc Canns ?

One question I have asked before  ( you may have missed it  )   is what was the purpose of  going to the  British press  with your theory   ?  ...  what did you hope to achieve by doing that  ?

[Sherlock Holmes]

I do not know if my hypothesis is right.

My hypothesis involves one by then Ocean Club employee, with a previous record of theft (someone called him Heribertoman here, and of course he was not the black dead man Euclides).

I have sent his name to Scotland Yard Operation Grange and Polícia Judiciária Oporto teams in June 2013, along with many details I can not publish yet. I also have sent to both of them, in June 2013, two more things: (a) data of two additional OC employees who may be related to Heribertoman, and (b) data of a fourth OC employee who may know about the burglaries.

Some of the information given in Crimewatch TV program of October 14th. 2013 is directly related to Heribertoman.

I think Madeleine was caught because the burglar felt she may recognize him.

Can you explain why an Ocean Club employee, having access to information on who was occupying the apartments, would enter the apartment of someone who was likely to recognise him?

[John]

Can you explain why an Ocean Club employee, having access to information on who was occupying the apartments, would enter the apartment of someone who was likely to recognise him?

Good point SH.  One usually finds that the insider is only an informant and lets someone else do the dirty work.  Providing keys however was an entirely different matter.

[Redblossom]

Have any kids ever been abducted by a stranger from a holiday home or hotel whilst being left alone? Using or not using a "listening service" ?

This burglar thing is getting a bit ridiculous IMO

What cuplability, if this happened, do the Mccanns and or friends have? Telling employees and other holiday makers they didnt know from Adam, that they actually left their kids alone each night?

 8-)(--)

Bizarre IMO
Not that I think  there was any criminal hub in PDL at all, let alone child abductors

[Estuarine]

Have any kids ever been abducted by a stranger from a holiday home or hotel whilst being left alone? Using or not using a "listening service" ?

This burglar thing is getting a bit ridiculous IMO

What cuplability, if this happened, do the Mccanns and or friends have? Telling employees and other holiday makers they didnt know from Adam, that they actually left their kids alone each night?

 8-)(--)

Bizarre IMO
Not that I think  there was any criminal hub in PDL at all, let alone child abductors

Oh what a bummer when you need a barmy burglar story to make your only theory stand up !

[Redblossom]

Oh what a bummer when you need a barmy burglar story to make your only theory stand up !

Clutching + straws + no evidence + tonnes of spin   = nonsense! At best

Eta

Lets not forget , who's theory is it?!!

Not SYs for sure.....the only thing they have ever said via Redwood is there was an opportunity for an abduction to take place, and that would be a criminal act by a stranger, well, yes! thats it, nothing more......
Im sure if I missed something someone will post it ie where Redwood states we believe she was abducted.....

[John]

Whatever happened to the imminent arrests crap?  Personally, I don't believe the PJ will arrest anyone based on what at the end of the day merely amounts to a theory.  The GNR and the PJ will know who operates on their patch and will be best placed to decide who is worthy of a closer look.  I can't see SY making any headway here.

[Redblossom]

Whatever happened to the imminent arrests crap?  Personally, I don't believe the PJ will arrest anyone based on what at the end of the day merely amounts to a theory.  The GNR and the PJ will know who operates on their patch and will be best placed to decide who is worthy of a closer look.  I can't see SY making any headway here.

it was just that

no different to so much in this pathetic case