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AnneGuedes

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Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #120 on: January 21, 2014, 07:18:13 PM »
Whatever happened to the imminent arrests crap?  Personally, I don't believe the PJ will arrest anyone based on what at the end of the day merely amounts to a theory.  The GNR and the PJ will know who operates on their patch and will be best placed to decide who is worthy of a closer look.  I can't see SY making any headway here.
I've a feeling they might not agree completely. The PJ's perspective of the situation is certainly wiser on the topic of burglars. And not only on that. But they're patient, terribly patient, too patient perhaps.
I came upon the celerity they deployed in obeying the LC's request to urgently investigate a certain boat pointed out by the (psychic) friend of a friend of a friend of Kate's uncle.
The lady identified the boat but, carefully, didn't recognize the man on the boat ?{)(**
If such an episode occurred in France, it would certainly be called "scandalous".
How many psychics work for SY ?

Offline Matthew Wyse

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« Reply #121 on: January 22, 2014, 08:17:29 AM »
dont know about psychics but they all appear a bit mental.   @)(++(*



The lady identified the boat but, carefully, didn't recognize the man on the boat ?{)(**
If such an episode occurred in France, it would certainly be called "scandalous".
How many psychics work for SY ?
« Last Edit: January 22, 2014, 08:19:27 AM by Matthew Wyse »
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drummer

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Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #123 on: January 22, 2014, 08:52:12 PM »
 SY mention three burglars, they need to be interviewed asap. Lot's of info could be divulged, how well did they know each other? Were they themselves unaware that one of them was into more sinister crimes than burglary? Did one or two of them not want any part in what the other intended but are afraid to come forward. Just a thought.

Offline jassi

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« Reply #124 on: January 22, 2014, 08:58:06 PM »
SY mention three burglars, they need to be interviewed asap. Lot's of info could be divulged, how well did they know each other? Were they themselves unaware that one of them was into more sinister crimes than burglary? Did one or two of them not want any part in what the other intended but are afraid to come forward. Just a thought.

Where have they mentioned this?
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Offline VIXTE

Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #125 on: January 23, 2014, 08:38:57 AM »
I think a possible  burglar's involvement could be possible in these cases:

1. one of the burglars was known to Madeleine and she was taken to not to tell she'd recognised him
2. burglars had order for Madeleine
3. Burglar accidentally killed Madeleine while he was in the apartment and took her with him to hide the facts
4. Burglar wasn't really mentally balanced and he took Madeleine as a part of a psychotic episode.
5. A single burglar was possible a a child abuser.

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #126 on: January 23, 2014, 08:43:35 AM »
I think a possible  burglar's involvement could be possible in these cases:

1. one of the burglars was known to Madeleine and she was taken to not to tell she'd recognised him
2. burglars had order for Madeleine
3. Burglar accidentally killed Madeleine while he was in the apartment and took her with him to hide the facts
4. Burglar wasn't really mentally balanced and he took Madeleine as a part of a psychotic episode.
5. A single burglar was possible a a child abuser.

I don't like 5.  But this is possible.  However, he must have had the means to sedate that child.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #127 on: January 23, 2014, 09:16:44 AM »

By now the police of both countries know between whom these numerous phone calls were made, and they will have their criminal records if there are any.
At this point there is no great rush, and the people involved will know themselves who is being referred to.
It could be interesting for the police to see what they will do.  Although I doubt that these men know where Madeleine is now.

Offline jassi

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« Reply #128 on: January 23, 2014, 09:32:24 AM »
By now the police of both countries know between whom these numerous phone calls were made, and they will have their criminal records if there are any.
At this point there is no great rush, and the people involved will know themselves who is being referred to.
It could be interesting for the police to see what they will do.  Although I doubt that these men know where Madeleine is now.

Surely if Madeleine is alive, as SY and the McCanns believe her to be, there is every reason for urgency.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Cariad

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Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #129 on: January 23, 2014, 09:39:00 AM »
Surely if Madeleine is alive, as SY and the McCanns believe her to be, there is every reason for urgency.

This! It's the lackadaisical attitude from the police that most convinces me that Madeleine is no longer alive. If she were, there wouldn't be these leaks, they'd be conducting dawn raids to rescue her.

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #130 on: January 23, 2014, 09:51:15 AM »
Surely if Madeleine is alive, as SY and the McCanns believe her to be, there is every reason for urgency.

Not really.  Any harm has already been done.  If Madeleine is still alive then she will go on being alive, which I hope.  But finding her needs leads.  Now is when softly, softly might work.  Watching what the barstards get up to is more likely to accomplish this than rushing in and arresting them.  Wind them up and see what they will do.  This is common place police strategy.

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« Reply #131 on: January 23, 2014, 09:53:08 AM »
This! It's the lackadaisical attitude from the police that most convinces me that Madeleine is no longer alive. If she were, there wouldn't be these leaks, they'd be conducting dawn raids to rescue her.

Not much use if they don't know where she is.

Offline Luz

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« Reply #132 on: January 23, 2014, 10:47:15 AM »
I find it amazing how you state that the last people to see that child alive are not suspects! Who told you that? The Portuguese Public Ministry haven't cleared them.

The McCann failed to help being cleared. When the case was archived they were suspects (no evidence to charge is not the same as evidence to eliminate them as suspects), the same process was reopened at the same stage and, since no new suspects were brought into the case, they are still the main suspects.

The Uk investigation is a totally different case. Nobody even knows what they are investigating since they started by excluding hypothesis and restraining to a single line of investigation. From a police force that was not even on the terrain, and before fully reviewing  what had been done, that was strongly indicative that they were not investigating the same case.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #133 on: January 23, 2014, 10:54:30 AM »
I find it amazing how you state that the last people to see that child alive is not suspect! Who told you that? The Portuguese Public Ministry haven't cleared them.

The McCann failed to help being cleared. When the case was archived they were suspects (no evidence to charge is not the same as evidence to eliminate them as suspects), the same process was reopened at the same stage and, since no new suspects were brought into the case, they are still the main suspects.

The Uk investigation is a totally different case. Nobody even knows what they are investigating since they started by excluding hypothesis and restraining to a single line of investigation. From a police force that was not even on the terrain, and before fully reviewing  what had been done, that was strongly indicative that they were not investigating the same case.

You go on believing that if that is what suits your often twisted observations.  The McCanns are still not Suspects, even in Portugal.

Cariad

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Re: Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??
« Reply #134 on: January 23, 2014, 11:09:36 AM »
Not much use if they don't know where she is.

Should she still be alive, would alerting her captors that the police are closing in be advisable?

Wouldn't the reaction of her captors be to dispose of all evidence of their involvement, which would include Madeleine herself?