Madeleine McCann...burglars don't steal children but do they??

[Redblossom]

Why do some people state as if a fact there was an abductor and/or burglar.


IT ISN'T.

On either score.

of course it isnt, and there is also no evidence for it...doesnt mean it couldnt have happened but the only people touting it as a fact are the family?..similar case was the aisenberg, also lisa irwin alledged abductions

[AnneGuedes]

I think they work on the basis of if something is said often enough, people will come to believe it  - fat chance 

Oh but this is proved to work !

[Sherlock Holmes]

Should she be alive and should SY have three persons of interest that they believe may know what happened, maybe they should've just got on with quietly questioning them in case they actually do have some information that could lead to Madeleine's rescue.

I wasn't implying that no one should do anything in case Madeleine is killed after nearly 7 years, I was saying the opposite in fact.  Stop saying 'we're coming to get you!' and start doing it!

As a little thought experiment, pretend that you have stolen the crown jewels. You've had them for 7 years and no one has found out. YOu can't fence them, cause, well, they're the crown jewels and everybody knows that they're too hot to touch.

3 other people know that you have them and it's announced in the press that the police know about them and are perched to arrest/question them.

Do You A, Keep the crown jewels

Or B, get rid of the crown jewels

If you do A you're caught. You're going to prison. If you do B, there is nothing to tie you to the original crime other than the word of 3 criminals.

In this thought experiment, I'm going for B. How about you?

I like your thought experiment, Cariad. But I think B probably involves a risk of being caught as well, albeit much smaller than A.

Having said that, we don't know what connection to any abduction - if any - the burglars are supposed to have. It could simply be that SY understand that they were in the area at the time and are hoping that they could shed light on anything of interest that may have occurred on PdL around that time. Nothing at all to suggest that those burglers were the actual alleged  kidnappers, or even that they have an idea who specifically the kidnappers may have been.

[Redblossom]

I like your thought experiment, Cariad. But I think B probably involves a risk of being caught as well, albeit much smaller than A.

Having said that, we don't know what connection to any abduction - if any - the burglars are supposed to have. It could simply be that SY understand that they were in the area at the time and are hoping that they could shed light on anything of interest that may have occurred on PdL around that time. Nothing at all to suggest that those burglers were the actual alleged  kidnappers, or even that they have an idea who specifically the kidnappers may have been.

In other words, clutching at straws....thats all SY will be doing when attempting to find the scarlet pimpernel "abductor"

IMO

Three police forces, seven sets of private investigators, umpteen millions and mantime, unprecedented media coverage, nearly seven years, etc etc etc etc  and zilch result.....or clue

Time to look closer to home perhaps


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[stephen25000]

In other words, clutching at straws....thats all SY will be doing when attempting to find the scarlet pimpernel "abductor"

IMO

Three police forces, seven sets of private investigators, umpteen millions and mantime, unprecedented media coverage, nearly seven years, etc etc etc etc  and zilch result.....or clue

Time to look closer to home perhaps


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They seek him here, they seek him there, but in the end we know where the road leads.

[Redblossom]

They seek him here, they seek him there, but in the end we know where the road leads.

They seek him here they seek him there
Those frenchies ( PJ/Lp/SY/other bods)seek him everywhere
Is he in heaven or is he in hell
That damned elusive pimpernel

 

Yes, they seek over there and not here! maybe they should make that u turn for a change, see where it leads! Not as if they cant afford it!
Unlimited time and resources promised by Home Office


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Then the poor sods have a mount everest of material to go through....still, interviewing the tapas 9 again would be good, once they have read everything that is..oh and watched all mccanns media interviews as they are evidence too, gargantuan task, lets see


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[stephen25000]

They seek him here they seek him there
Those frenchies ( PJ/Lp/SY/other bods)seek him everywhere
Is he in heaven or is he in hell
That damned elusive pimpernel

 

Yes, they seek over there and not here!

 

[Estuarine]

They seek him here they seek him there
Those frenchies ( PJ/Lp/SY/other bods)seek him everywhere
Is he in heaven or is he in hell
That damned elusive pimpernel

 

Yes, they seek over there and not here! maybe they should make that u turn for a change, see where it leads! Not as if they cant afford it!

My nasty suspicious mind thinks they search over there because that's where the paper trail is.The Met and the PJ are remarkably quiet and that Pedro do Carmo; now there's a geezer you shake hands with and count your fingers afterwards if ever there was one.

[Redblossom]

My nasty suspicious mind thinks they search over there because that's where the paper trail is.The Met and the PJ are remarkably quiet and that Pedro do Carmo; now there's a geezer you shake hands with and count your fingers afterwards if ever there was one.

I would rather not thnk of corruption in high places, makes me angry


sad lot of losers though and yes they always always lose

Makes you wonder why they bother being pathetic idiots in the first place


 


they should always pay though for damage they have done in any way, always

[j.rob]

They seek him here they seek him there
Those frenchies ( PJ/Lp/SY/other bods)seek him everywhere
Is he in heaven or is he in hell
That damned elusive pimpernel

 

Yes, they seek over there and not here! maybe they should make that u turn for a change, see where it leads! Not as if they cant afford it!
Unlimited time and resources promised by Home Office


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Then the poor sods have a mount everest of material to go through....still, interviewing the tapas 9 again would be good, once they have read everything that is..oh and watched all mccanns media interviews as they are evidence too, gargantuan task, lets see


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Good points - but, you know what, it was all a relatively easy task if you take it right back to the beginning. Really not a very difficult piece of detective work.

And what is funny (peculiar funny) is that I think there was a media interview where Kate McCann said something along the lines of if she had been overweight etc (in other words: had looked less 'attractive') then there would have been sympathy for her.

I have thought about this comment and, as in most things the McCanns say, it is completely ......irritatingly stupid, really.

My guess is that if the McCanns had not been middle class and doctors (irrespective of their weights.....) then they would now be in prison.

[Estuarine]

I would rather not thnk of corruption in high places, makes me angry


sad lot of losers though and yes they always always lose

Makes you wonder why they bother being pathetic idiots in the first place


 


they should always pay though for damage they have done in any way, always

Don't get me wrong; I was not suggesting corruption. Carmo gives the impression of being a bit hard and competent.

[Sherlock Holmes]

Good points - but, you know what, it was all a relatively easy task if you take it right back to the beginning. Really not a very difficult piece of detective work.

And what is funny (peculiar funny) is that I think there was a media interview where Kate McCann said something along the lines of if she had been overweight etc (in other words: had looked less 'attractive') then there would have been sympathy for her.

I have thought about this comment and, as in most things the McCanns say, it is completely ......irritatingly stupid, really.

My guess is that if the McCanns had not been middle class and doctors (irrespective of their weights.....) then they would now be in prison.

Well on the other side of it, j.rob, Kate's mother said  Kate had suggested that if she had been more shapely, i.e. a bit more maternal looking, people would have looked upon her as being a better mother and would be less likely to make comments regarding the McCanns being under suspicion.

These personal things can go either way.

[Angelo222]

Not really.  Any harm has already been done.  If Madeleine is still alive then she will go on being alive, which I hope.  But finding her needs leads.  Now is when softly, softly might work.  Watching what the barstards get up to is more likely to accomplish this than rushing in and arresting them.  Wind them up and see what they will do.  This is common place police strategy.

Are you or real Eleanor??  Wind them up and...   

[Angelo222]

You go on believing that if that is what suits your often twisted observations.  The McCanns are still not Suspects, even in Portugal.

That could very well change if a body is discovered.

[Eleanor]

Are you or real Eleanor??  Wind them up and...   

Oh Yes.  Criminals often get stressed and do silly things if they think that someone might be onto them.
Or is this beyond your comprehension?