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Offline VIXTE

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #240 on: February 03, 2014, 09:01:48 PM »
The Judicial Police are searching for a 40 year old man who worked as a driver at the Ocean Club tourist resort where Madeleine McCann disappeared. According to sources at the Daily News, the man was responsible for transporting tourists from the resort to Faro Airport.

09:32 - February 3, 2014 | By By Minute News

Praia da Luz, near Lagos, is again subject to enquiries by the Judicial Police. This time the target is the former driver of the resort where the McCanns were staying with their children in May 2007.

According to the Daily News, the former driver of the minibus at the Ocean Club would have been about 40 years of age. After the incident, the man, single, left the project, worked in a bar and is unemployed at this time.

"They've been here a few days ago, three individuals who identified themselves as being from the Judicial Police and wanted to know where a man who worked for the Ocean Club Company when Maddie disappeared resides. At the time he used to transport tourists from Faro Airport to the apartments of the project in Praia da Luz Then at the end of the holidays he took customers to the airport to return to their respective countries. He was accustomed to always using a phone, a local resident of Praia da Luz told the Daily News.

Described as "quiet and polite," the man brought a new presence of the PJ to Praia da Luz, a few days after four British investigators from Scotland Yard were in a meeting in Faro.

On the table at the meeting, which included Cramo Mota, responsible for the Board of Southern PJ, and Ana Paula Rito, the coordinator of the Criminal Investigation Department in Portimão, was a request to the Portuguese police for cooperation for cooperation in several matters.


http://www.noticiasaominuto.com/pais/168408/motorista-de-hotel-algarvio-procurado-a-reboque-do-caso-maddie#.Uu95e5NFDX5

This is from the news thread..

I now wonder if this car used to transport tourists was parked across the road to OC reception.. where the portuguese / GNR dogs lost Madeleine's scent!


Offline Carana

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #241 on: February 03, 2014, 09:16:18 PM »
She said it was a chld over two years of age and was convinced the cryng came from directly below her flat

Directly below is the mccanns flat


That rules out the paynes on the same floor as her next door and who had a monitor and the oldfields whose child was not even two at the time

That leaves the obriens child three doors away and whilst daddy was there...doubt it was his child either

Reckon Mrs Fenn was right


According to the non-verbatim report, translated back into English, she said the floor below.

I find it possible that she heard different children crying in various apartments over the course of the evening, from further away to closer. Depending on whose timing is correct, the last one could have been Amelie actually crying, and the voice could have been Madeleine calling out and going to her parents' bedroom.






Redblossom

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Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #242 on: February 03, 2014, 09:22:28 PM »
This is from the news thread..

I now wonder if this car used to transport tourists was parked across the road to OC reception.. where the portuguese / GNR dogs lost Madeleine's scent!


thats a good wonder but probably a totally useless one...dont let them sap you vixte!

 8((()*/

Offline VIXTE

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #243 on: February 03, 2014, 09:38:30 PM »
thats a good wonder but probably a totally useless one...dont let them sap you vixte!

 8((()*/

There is some history to this. Back in 2007 in the first days when Madeleine went missing.. back then we did not have [ censored word] and pros on forums and it was all open and people were very proactive.. and this was before the 'secrecy' and stupid journos and it all started at Steve Huffs crime blog.
 I remember very well that these dogs were mentioned and that we had a PJ person on forum, I think she was called Olviera or something, lovely lady,  and the theory back then which all worked on was that the car parked there probably took Madeleine.. and 'Olviera' said she'd pass it to PJ.. and I am remembering this now and thinking if this is true then I am going to eat my hat.. such a waste of time and resources all these years and the theory was there in the first days!

But then this was rubbished because Gerry McCann said Madeleine passed there ( but he wasn't sure) and it was forgotten so not sure if it was passed to PJ..
« Last Edit: February 03, 2014, 09:40:33 PM by VIXTE »

Offline Air Con

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #244 on: February 03, 2014, 10:26:15 PM »
This is usually caught by a camera?

IMO phone data from the data centre cannot be inaccurate.. it has to collaborate with towers .. but your own phone can give you the wrong time because the phone time is set up locally on your phone.

If a police officer in the UK claims to have seen you using a mobile phone whilst driving no amount of data from mast pings will help you. You can claim all you like that the phone wasn't being used according to data from the service provider but it won't be accepted.

Unless, of course, they need it to prove something else.

Offline Air Con

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #245 on: February 03, 2014, 10:54:53 PM »
Why do people keep comparing the official resort baby listening service with the haphazard approach adopted by the McCann's?

There's no comparison.
One is an organised service at regular intervals whilst the other consists of someone, not sure whom, checking an apartment that may or may not be locked by either listening at the window or possibly going inside.

Offline sadie

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #246 on: February 03, 2014, 11:52:14 PM »
Why do people keep comparing the official resort baby listening service with the haphazard approach adopted by the McCann's?

There's no comparison.
One is an organised service at regular intervals whilst the other consists of someone, not sure whom, checking an apartment that may or may not be locked by either listening at the window or possibly going inside.

Air con

The Mccanns checking was far superior to the old hotel listening service.  Just cos they promised every half hour does not mean that they achieved every half hour. 

The Mccanns checked VISUALLY, with the help of Matt, every half hour.  Nobody is saying that it was to the second, but I bet that it was a damned sight more regular than the average hotel service which would often rely on an oft interrupted receptionist trying to do two jobs at once.

Additional to the visual check, Matt did a further listening check at the childrens bedroom.

Lyall

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Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #247 on: February 03, 2014, 11:56:04 PM »
Air con

The Mccanns checking was far superior to the old hotel listening service.  Just cos they promised every half hour does not mean that they achieved every half hour. 

The Mccanns checked VISUALLY, with the help of Matt, every half hour.  Nobody is saying that it was to the second, but I bet that it was a damned sight more regular than the average hotel service which would often rely on an oft interrupted receptionist trying to do two jobs at once.

Additional to the visual check, Matt did a further listening check at the childrens bedroom.

That was Thursday night. What about the others? >@@(*&)

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #248 on: February 03, 2014, 11:59:38 PM »
There is some history to this. Back in 2007 in the first days when Madeleine went missing.. back then we did not have [ censored word] and pros on forums and it was all open and people were very proactive.. and this was before the 'secrecy' and stupid journos and it all started at Steve Huffs crime blog.
 I remember very well that these dogs were mentioned and that we had a PJ person on forum, I think she was called Olviera or something, lovely lady,  and the theory back then which all worked on was that the car parked there probably took Madeleine.. and 'Olviera' said she'd pass it to PJ.. and I am remembering this now and thinking if this is true then I am going to eat my hat.. such a waste of time and resources all these years and the theory was there in the first days!

But then this was rubbished because Gerry McCann said Madeleine passed there ( but he wasn't sure) and it was forgotten so not sure if it was passed to PJ..

Which car, VIXTE?


Offline sadie

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #249 on: February 04, 2014, 12:00:29 AM »
That was Thursday night. What about the others? >@@(*&)

Lyall, we dont know any real details about the other nights except we do know, IIRC, that they ate at the Millenium restaurant one of the early nights and took the little ones with them.  That was too difficult.  Not successful, so they sataisfied themselves with the outdoor Tapas restaurant.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #250 on: February 04, 2014, 12:11:47 AM »
Which car, VIXTE?

The car used to bring tourists from Faro airport to Ocean Club driven by this particular driver / or the personal  car of the driver in question.

( I am talking about the link that drummer posted - the new reports in PT papers that PJ is now seeking the driver who worked for OC; My question was whether his car was maybe parked in the area just accros the road of OC reception where the GNR sniffer dogs lost Madeleine's scent on the 4th May and 8th May 2007)


Lyall

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Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #251 on: February 04, 2014, 12:11:51 AM »
Lyall, we dont know any real details about the other nights except we do know, IIRC, that they ate at the Millenium restaurant one of the early nights and took the little ones with them.  That was too difficult.  Not successful, so they sataisfied themselves with the outdoor Tapas restaurant.

This is the problem, Sadie. We still don't know much about anything, on any night, and there are no witnesses to what we've been told (apart from J Wilkins, but he didn't really witness anything either).

The only witnesses to their stories are themselves, and that's the problem.

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #252 on: February 04, 2014, 12:17:38 AM »
The car used to bring tourists from Faro airport to Ocean Club driven by this particular driver / or the personal  car of the driver in question.

( I am talking about the link that drummer posted - the new reports in PT papers that PJ is now seeking the driver who worked for OC; My question was whether his car was maybe parked in the area just accros the road of OC reception where the GNR sniffer dogs lost Madeleine's scent on the 4th May and 8th May 2007)

Thanks I see it now..

Offline pegasus

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #253 on: February 04, 2014, 01:21:29 AM »
SO some  guy works late because some foreign tourists can't get into their apartment and therefore obviously pings a central PDL mast slightly after precribed work finish,. This is what I call a good worker. Willing to stay late when work demands. Now he is targeted by investigators just because he worked late. Unfair. Outdated british superiority complex. Honest portuguese worker unfairly insinuated IMO.



 

Offline colombosstogey

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #254 on: February 04, 2014, 06:44:38 AM »

According to the non-verbatim report, translated back into English, she said the floor below.

I find it possible that she heard different children crying in various apartments over the course of the evening, from further away to closer. Depending on whose timing is correct, the last one could have been Amelie actually crying, and the voice could have been Madeleine calling out and going to her parents' bedroom.

Well if she heard the McCanns friends children crying, wernt they all together OUT EATING, either way it was not acceptable that children were heard crying for over an hour.