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stephen25000

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Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #630 on: March 26, 2014, 11:26:09 AM »
According to Amaral, he is the lone hero and everyone else is wrong. Whatever the topic is. I should no doubt have inserted an appropriate smiley, but I didn't find an adequate one. Maybe this one will do? 8(0(*

By the same note, mccann supporters believe the mccanns 'walk on water' and everyone who doubts their story has got it wrong.

Deja vu, or what ?

Estuarine

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Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #631 on: March 26, 2014, 11:18:43 PM »
Six hours til dawn. The trolling hour when you all turn to stone. But you will not be in peace because no stone will remain unturned.   8(>((

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #632 on: March 26, 2014, 11:49:49 PM »
Mr Amaral treated the UK dog signals in the apartment as intelligence. If SY examine the killed by burglar hypothesis (which BTW I do not think is correct), will SY consider Eddie's signals behind sofa, near/in wardrobe, and near climbing plant, as possible intelligence in that new context?

icabodcrane

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Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #633 on: March 27, 2014, 12:01:50 AM »
Mr Amaral treated the UK dog signals in the apartment as intelligence. If SY examine the killed by burglar hypothesis (which BTW I do not think is correct), will SY consider Eddie's signals behind sofa, near/in wardrobe, and near climbing plant, as possible intelligence in that new context?

Well they can't,  can they  ?   ...  not unless they presume the intruder killed Madeleine then waited for at least  an hour and a half to remove her dead body   (  the minimum time it would have taken for the scent of death to have been detectable to the dog trained to sniff it  ) 

Not only that,  Scotland Yard would have to presume that the McCanns had lied about their checking regime that night  ...  because if the scent of death was  detectable to the dog,  then  Madeleine would have already been dead when Gerry had his  'proud father'  moment at 9.10pm

So no,  there is no way Scotland Yard can reconcile the cadaver dog alerts with a scenario where Madeleine was killed by an intruder

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #634 on: March 27, 2014, 12:26:05 AM »
Mr Amaral treated the UK dog signals in the apartment as intelligence. If SY examine the killed by burglar hypothesis (which BTW I do not think is correct), will SY consider Eddie's signals behind sofa, near/in wardrobe, and near climbing plant, as possible intelligence in that new context?

What do you actually think happened? That Madeleine left on her own?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #635 on: March 27, 2014, 07:58:22 AM »
Well they can't,  can they  ?   ...  not unless they presume the intruder killed Madeleine then waited for at least  an hour and a half to remove her dead body   (  the minimum time it would have taken for the scent of death to have been detectable to the dog trained to sniff it  ) 

Not only that,  Scotland Yard would have to presume that the McCanns had lied about their checking regime that night  ...  because if the scent of death was  detectable to the dog,  then  Madeleine would have already been dead when Gerry had his  'proud father'  moment at 9.10pm

So no,  there is no way Scotland Yard can reconcile the cadaver dog alerts with a scenario where Madeleine was killed by an intruder

The death scent is not confirmed...fact...amaral got it wrong...fact

stephen25000

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Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #636 on: March 27, 2014, 08:02:01 AM »
The death scent is not confirmed...fact...amaral got it wrong...fact

However, and rather more pertinently, it hasn't been disproved either.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #637 on: March 27, 2014, 08:35:02 AM »
I'm going to stick with SY being the best bet to get Justice for Maddie
« Last Edit: March 27, 2014, 10:50:02 AM by Mr Moderator »

Offline jassi

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #638 on: March 27, 2014, 08:41:54 AM »
I'm going to stick with SY being the best bet to get Justice for Maddie


 How would you define "Justice for Maddie" ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Angelo222

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #639 on: March 27, 2014, 08:48:21 AM »
The death scent is not confirmed...fact...amaral got it wrong...fact

It's common sense really, back in August 2007 just a few months after Maddie disappeared nobody in their right mind was going to declare her dead...just in case she wasn't. Just imagine what would have happened if Grime had declared that Eddie had found the death scent in 5a and Maddie was found alive and well?  A proper career stopper!

Amaral took a risk in declaring what he did and look where he is now.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Angelo222

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #640 on: March 27, 2014, 08:52:25 AM »
Your post get more ridiculous...Sy are maddies best bet for justice imo..

Correction Dave, SY is Maddie's only bet for justice.  Even her parents have stopped physically searching!
« Last Edit: March 27, 2014, 08:57:23 AM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline jassi

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #641 on: March 27, 2014, 08:57:02 AM »
So SY have found exactly what ?

Easy answer to that one.

NOTHING.

I'm sure they've found lots of things, just nothing to advance their quest.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #642 on: March 27, 2014, 08:59:58 AM »
It's common sense really, back in August 2007 just a few months after Maddie disappeared nobody in their right mind was going to declare her dead...just in case she wasn't. Just imagine what would have happened if Grime had declared that Eddie had found the death scent in 5a and Maddie was found alive and well?  A proper career stopper!

Amaral took a risk in declaring what he did and look where he is now.

what you are stating is opinion angelo...making excuses for grime..i agree that SY are Maddies only hope and the reason they are involved is because of the efforts of her parents

stephen25000

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Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #643 on: March 27, 2014, 09:05:02 AM »
what you are stating is opinion angelo...making excuses for grime..i agree that SY are Maddies only hope and the reason they are involved is because of the efforts of her parents

Let's get things right davel.

The reason for Madeleine's predicament originates in their leaving of three children in what they claim was an unlocked apartment.

Offline Carana

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #644 on: March 27, 2014, 10:26:06 AM »
FSS like other forensic units was closed down because of government problems with money not because they have been involved in any judicial shenanigans.  The whole forensic community was up in arms about the cutbacks at the time so to suggest that FSS was closed down because of this case is a very large red herring and an insult to the people worked there.

And what's this about the UK Government not asking for satellite pictures of PDL on 3rd May 2007?   What's wrong with the Portuguese Government asking instead.?   And what picture of Gerry carrying his daughter to the beach?  Would there be one? 

And finally have you any substantiation to back the above-mention allegations?

John made a tongue-in-cheek remark and I responded likewise.

- On the FSS:
I'm aware that the FSS shut down due to financial issues. However, in view of the bizarre conspiracies in the PT tabloids over the years, it wouldn't surprise me at all if hinting at a different reason will not somehow be attributed directly or indirectly to the McCanns. It is, after all, only one step further than Amaral insisting that the FSS results had been tampered with, presumably because he didn't understand what Lowe was trying to explain, even though Corte-Real agreed with Lowe and had also tried to explain it in Amaral's own film... a point which seems to be studiously ignored.

- On Amaral and satellites, there is a thread on this:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1192.0

ETA: To be fair to Amaral, the origin of the PJ asking the UK to contact the US seems to have originated with Jim Murray, quoting a "senior source within the PJ", on which Amaral later commented.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/134657/SATELLITE-CLUE-TO-MADDIE-KIDNAP


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