Did the PJ conduct a proper search for evidence at OC?

[icabodcrane]

But almost nobody believed it was an abductor anyway did they? Including fanatical supporters. CM himself destroyed any remaining credibility when he declared JT was 80% on Creepyman being 9.15 man: it was farcical after that.

I don't know what to say about that Lyall   ...  the McCann version of events  ...   that an abductor was already in the apartment,  hiding,  when Gerry made his 9.05pm check and that he   (  the  'abductor'  )  was seen just moments later making off with Madeleine in his arms by their friend Jane Tanner  ...   appears to have been dismissed by Scotland Yard 

Why would anyone still believe the  McCanns  relentlessly promoted   'theory'  ?  ...  indeed,  why would the McCanns,  themselves,  still cling to it  when Scotland Yard have effectively scotched it  ? 

[AnneGuedes]

Where witness AS saw him is consistent with him then going down steps.
From the steps before he reaches dolphin he can turn right and go along a small lane

No, Pegasus. If he intended to go down the steps he would have started turning right when AS saw him (she wouldn't have seen the buttons).
Yes, there a street, not a lane, passing by a large area full of weed. Do you think he could live there ?

[Lyall]

I don't know what to say about that Lyall   ...  the McCann version of events  ...   that an abductor was already in the apartment,  hiding,  when Gerry made his 9.05pm check and that he   (  the  'abductor'  )  was seen just moments later making off with Madeleine in his arms by their friend Jane Tanner  ...   appears to have been dismissed by Scotland Yard 

Why would anyone still believe the  McCanns  relentlessly promoted   'theory'  ?  ...  indeed,  why would the McCanns,  themselves,  still cling to it  when Scotland Yard have effectively scotched it  ?

I don't know, Icabod, it's a puzzle. Only they will know (and the lawyers more than likely). They can always rely on the newspapers not being the slightest bit interested in anything but chasing phantoms can't they.

[AnneGuedes]

Why would anyone still believe the  McCanns  relentlessly promoted   'theory'  ?  ...  indeed,  why would the McCanns,  themselves,  still cling to it  when Scotland Yard have effectively scotched it  ?

Don't they have to cling to something ?

[AnneGuedes]

I don't know, Icabod, it's a puzzle. Only they will know (and the lawyers more than likely). They can always rely on the newspapers not being the slightest bit interested in anything but chasing phantoms can't they.

For how long will phantoms be compatible with the best police of the planet ?

[Lyall]

For how long will phantoms be compatible with the best police of the planet ?

Are the Scandinavians involved now?

Topical joke

[icabodcrane]

Are the Scandinavians involved now?

Topical joke

They've been there,  done that,  and got the T shirt already    ...  remember that little Swedish girl at a car show   ? 

[VIXTE]

Do you think he could live there ?

Has Mr Amaral checked that? 

Or he was busy with phantoms too?

[Lyall]

They've been there,  done that,  and got the T shirt already    ...  remember that little Swedish girl at a car show   ?

No.

I was meaning fictional cops (so many shows now).

[Benice]

DCI Redwood's 'revelation moment' in Crimewatch didn't actually make that much difference because few believed in that part of the story anyway.]

Guess what: few believe the 9.30 part either. So it would not be a massive leap for that to also change at some point.

Wishful thinking IMO   All the evidence says that SY do believe JT and MO and there is not a scrap of evidence to say they don't. 

I'm interested to know how you can claim as a fact that ... ''few people believe....'' etc etc.   How could you possibly know that to be true?

[Estuarine]

I don't know what to say about that Lyall   ...  the McCann version of events  ...   that an abductor was already in the apartment,  hiding,  when Gerry made his 9.05pm check and that he   (  the  'abductor'  )  was seen just moments later making off with Madeleine in his arms by their friend Jane Tanner  ...   appears to have been dismissed by Scotland Yard 

Why would anyone still believe the  McCanns  relentlessly promoted   'theory'  ?  ...  indeed,  why would the McCanns,  themselves,  still cling to it  when Scotland Yard have effectively scotched it  ?

I think, Icabod, they have to cling to the JT sighting. Without it the house of cards collapses. Below are two quotes by DCI Redwood off the MPS website.
"We are working on the basis of two possibilities here. One is that Madeleine is still alive; and the second that she is sadly dead".
"We believe we have identified the man who was seen by Jane Tanner carrying a child at about 21.15 near the apartment G5A".
The curious thing is that the PJ ran a media appeal for "Tannerman" but no one contacted PJ.

[jassi]

I think, Icabod, they have to cling to the JT sighting. Without it the house of cards collapses. Below are two quotes by DCI Redwood off the MPS website.
"We are working on the basis of two possibilities here. One is that Madeleine is still alive; and the second that she is sadly dead".
"We believe we have identified the man who was seen by Jane Tanner carrying a child at about 21.15 near the apartment G5A".
The curious thing is that the PJ ran a media appeal for "Tannerman" but no one contacted PJ.

When and where?  Tannerman, (if he truly  exists) may not have seen it.

[Lyall]

Wishful thinking IMO   All the evidence says that SY do believe JT and MO and there is not a scrap of evidence to say they don't. 

I'm interested to know how you can claim as a fact that ... ''few people believe....'' etc etc.   How could you possibly know that to be true?

The reaction after CW shows you everything you need to know about how much faith was put in the 9.15 sighting being an abductor, because there barely was any reaction after Redwood's 'revelation moment'. In fact I'd say there was none expressed publicly: the only reaction was - from very few people - incredulity about one sighting being dismissed and immediately replaced by another (10pm).

9.30 is more difficult to demonstrate, I'll give you that.

[AnneGuedes]

9.30 is more difficult to demonstrate, I'll give you that.

9:30's interest was always limited to show regularity of checks' intervals since it could confirm neither Tannerman (open shutters/window) nor Madeleine (empty bed).

[Estuarine]

When and where?  Tannerman, (if he truly  exists) may not have seen it.

2007 in Portugal. If T'man was in deep space or on a 6 year spelunking trip he would have missed all the hooha.
More likely he is the man who never was.