Exploring the reasons and motivation behind Portuguese re-opening of the case.

[jassi]

This is a short paragraph from this article dated MAY 2011...

"One plan is for a team of UK detectives - probably from Scotland Yard - to got to Portugal and pore over the police files.

One crucial exercise would be to do the mobile phone cell-site analysis that wasn't done.

And follow up reports of previous intruders into the holiday homes of other Brits, as recorded by Kate in her book."


How can anyone claim that the pj did a proper investigation when these things were not investigated..thank god SY are on the case

As I said yesterday, it remains to be seen if SY manage to do any better.

[Sherlock Holmes]

As I said yesterday, it remains to be seen if SY manage to do any better.

The simple act of reviewing old material with fresh eyes, and from a different perspective, could be beneficial, no?

[jassi]

The simple act of reviewing old material with fresh eyes, and from a different perspective, could be beneficial, no?

I suppose it would depend on how you define beneficial. If something tangible is achieved, then it will be, otherwise no.

[Redblossom]

Sadie...worry not..red is desperately trying to save face...as are the Portuguese...both are rattled at the thought of losing face

I have nothing to save face about here and not in the remotest sense rattled about anything, that's your wishful thinking or imagination. You posted that the PJ never considered abduction. It was a false and ridiculous statement to make, I wonder why you even bothered to make such a ridiculous assertion, so if there's any saving face going on here, it was you tryng to backtrack later once challenged on it, that's all, very very simple

[Redblossom]

The simple act of reviewing old material with fresh eyes, and from a different perspective, could be beneficial, no?

It is, but do you how many reviews there have been in ths case from "fresh eyes"? loads, well most of them were alledgedly fresh eyes, how true that is is anyone's guess, but yes, lots of cold case reviews, and none  an inch further than the Portuguese and uk  police got back in 2007

Still we all await with  baited breath SYs findings, poor sods lumbered with so much

[Estuarine]

Might be better to read all of it from alpha to omega then form an opinion rather than glom on to a bit that supports a predetermined thesis. The McCanns open letter to the PM in The Sun (spreading all de shite all around) would have thrown the cat in the kitty litter were there negotiations going on behind the scenes. The Home Sec didn't want any part of it until the PM pulled rank on her for whatever reason. Hardly seems to have been a carefully coordinated plan of attack.

[Mr Gray]

I have nothing to save face about here and not in the remotest sense rattled about anything, that's your wishful thinking or imagination. You posted that the PJ never considered abduction. It was a false and ridiculous statement to make, I wonder why you even bothered to make such a ridiculous assertion, so if there's any saving face going on here, it was you tryng to backtrack later once challenged on it, that's all, very very simple

according to amaral the whole pj team supported his assertion  that the parents simulated an abduction...that means they weren't taking the abduction seriously..they were wrong and incompetent..imo

[Redblossom]

according to amaral the whole pj team supported his assertion  that the parents simulated an abduction...that means they weren't taking the abduction seriously..they were wrong and incompetent..imo

What they did in august/september 07 after the dogs were brought in has no bearing on the past 3 odd months when abduction WAS investigated..something you said never considered!....that's that davel, stop labouring your mistake, and give it up! Most of the bloody files are about investigating an abduction, streuth!


 

[Mr Gray]

What they did in august/september 07 after the dogs were brought in has no bearing on the past 3 odd months when abduction WAS investigated..something you said never considered!....that's that davel, stop labouring your mistake, and give it up! Most of the bloody files are about investigating an abduction, streuth!


 

as you are an expert on the files perhaps you can tell us what they did


they didnt do a phone call analysis

they didnt investigate the burglaries

what did they do

[Eleanor]

as you are an expert on the files perhaps you can tell us what they did


they didnt do a phone call analysis

they didnt investigate the burglaries

what did they do

They didn't check the Night Creche records or the Spare Keys.

[Carana]

Frequently witnesses and suspects do not cooperate. There are legal rules that allow this. Despite that, all serious cases in the UK (with or without witness cooperation) are kept live, at least nominally.

I cannot believe that the Portuguese system is better where their interviewing recording is still police written statements rather than proper contemporaneous recordings, and where their interviewing process is so old fashioned- still based on gaining a confession rather than evidence gathering and cognitive interviews.

I have been quite surprised about just where the Portuguese system stands currently compared with countries that use more modern and academically backed methods.

Laws are being updated, which is all well and good, and a step forward, but apparently without any strategy or means to drive implementation. As I'd commented on a different thread, change is a slow process.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2969.msg128967#msg128967

[icabodcrane]

as you are an expert on the files perhaps you can tell us what they did


they didnt do a phone call analysis

they didnt investigate the burglaries

what did they do

They investigated bogus  'sightings'  by the thousand  ...  all over the world from Disneyland to Vietnam !

Bogus sightings that the McCanns'  'awareness campaign'  generated relentlessly,  and which may have acted as an overwhelming distraction to the job at hand

[Mr Gray]

They investigated bogus  'sightings'  by the thousand  ...  all over the world from Disneyland to Vietnam !

Bogus sightings that the McCanns'  'awareness campaign'  generated relentlessly,  and which may have acted as an overwhelming distraction to the job at hand

just excuses

[stephen25000]

just excuses

That is your hallmark.


b....r all evidence of abduction.

[EnolaStraight]

Laws are being updated, which is all well and good, and a step forward, but apparently without any strategy or means to drive implementation. As I'd commented on a different thread, change is a slow process.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2969.msg128967#msg128967

And while police recordings are manual rather than recorded, justice is denied.