Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.

[Carana]

I have moved the previous posts so that members can debate this issue.

The way I understand it presently is that they are not considered suspects at the moment in relation to any crime in Portugal.  As the investigation continues however and as we have seen in countless other cases, the emphases could change if evidence is found to suggest otherwise.

I find that a fair assessment.

The Oporto team have obviously found information, new leads, or ones that hadn't been sufficiently pursued, that were considered more worthy of further investigation than the so-called evidence submitted by a PT tabloid TV talking-head about a non-missing pink blanket.

[John]

I find that a fair assessment.

The Oporto team have obviously found information, new leads, or ones that hadn't been sufficiently pursued, that were considered more worthy of further investigation than the so-called evidence submitted by a PT tabloid TV talking-head about a non-missing pink blanket.

I think we are all agreed that the very best outcome would be to find Madeleine alive and well and since no-one else is looking for her we must extend our support to SY and the PJ in that endeavor.  As Leonor Cipriano once stated, "Better late than never".

[VIXTE]

Nothng to clarify, the mccanns are not regarded as suspects in the particular new line(s) of inquiry that got the case reopened by the PJ, thats all, all there in black and white.

Edited to remove double word posting

I disagree.

Not clarifying this fact very clearly adds a lot of room to the speculation and conspiracy theories.

It becomes 'Holy Grail'- like.

In today's world of technology for any journalist it wouldn't be hard to start working on the mud clearing.. transparency is the word here.. and this would be the 'hit into a heart' or the under carpet pushers..

[AnneGuedes]

I find that a fair assessment.

The Oporto team have obviously found information, new leads, or ones that hadn't been sufficiently pursued, that were considered more worthy of further investigation than the so-called evidence submitted by a PT tabloid TV talking-head about a non-missing pink blanket.

Have you a link supporting the "s" ? (not to a "PT tabloid". BTW how many are they ?)
One shouldn't forget that, though the MP made it clear it was crucial for the investigation,  its request concerned the TP9 and was rejected.
The fact that almost 5 years and a half passed doesn't invalidate the AG report where this is stated.

[AnneGuedes]

I think we are all agreed that the very best outcome would be to find Madeleine alive and well and since no-one else is looking for her we must extend our support to SY and the PJ in that endeavor.  As Leonor Cipriano once stated, "Better late than never".

Why are you kidding ?

[Redblossom]

I disagree.

Not clarifying this fact very clearly adds a lot of room to the speculation and conspiracy theories.

It becomes 'Holy Grail'- like.

In today's world of technology for any journalist it wouldn't be hard to start working on the mud clearing.. transparency is the word here.. and this would be the 'hit into a heart' or the under carpet pushers..

There is nothing to clarify, no conspiracy theories or speculation here, we have a named source, the  lawyer, and a verbatim quote from him and a video showng him saying it, it is exactly as reported and reads, you carry on making it into somethng else if you like....

Just to reiterate, the Mccanns are not PJ suspects in their new line(s) of enquiry

[VIXTE]

There is nothing to clarify, no conspiracy theories or speculation here, we have a named source, the  lawyer, and a verbatim quote from him and a video showng him saying it, it is exactly as reported and reads, you carry on making it into somethng else if you like....

I am not making it into something else, and I am not wishing to..

What I am saying is that a new source is needed, a named source from Portugal, and recorded for the whole world to see.

[Carana]

Have you a link supporting the "s" ? (not to a "PT tabloid". BTW how many are they ?)
One shouldn't forget that, though the MP made it clear it was crucial for the investigation,  its request concerned the TP9 and was rejected.
The fact that almost 5 years and a half passed doesn't invalidate the AG report where this is stated.

In the absence of information, whatever led to the reopening could involve several aspects, unless you have knowledge to the contrary.

At to the second part of your comment, I don't understand what you are referring to.

[Redblossom]

I am not making it into something else, and I am not wishing to..

What I am saying is that a new source is needed, a named source from Portugal, and recorded for the whole world to see.

To say what? And like who?

[VIXTE]

Just to reiterate, the Mccanns are not PJ suspects in their new line(s) of enquiry

And do you have a proof that PJ has and is still working on any OLD lines of inquiry?

Or you are hoping that stuffing the English speaking forums with speculations and conspiracies and 'interpretations a la Luz' would make them change their mind?

[Redblossom]

And do you have a proof that PJ has and is still working on any OLD lines of inquiry?

Or you are hoping that stuffing the English speaking forums with speculations and conspiracies and 'interpretations a la Luz' would make them change their mind?

You must be thoroughly confused, as you seem to have gone off the point of discussion completely, and I have no idea what you are mumbling on about now/accusing me of, so never mind, leave you to stuff the forum as it were with your pearls of wisdom! Instead

[VIXTE]

To say what? And like who?

To ask a government figure directly and clearly if the parents are still in any way considered to be suspects? Like they asked Redwood and he said 'no'?

Because now when Redwood said it, and Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe said it, this is not enough for the posters here.. Luz is still claiming they are still suspects in Portugal and the admin here has left Luz's post meaning the admin here is agreeing with Luz that parents are still suspects in Portugal.

And acceptance of this is allowing other posters to speculate in a way as if the parents are still suspect..

And they seem, including you, to believe that there is some 'secret investigation going on in Portugal still suspecting the parents'.

[Mr Gray]

To ask a government figure directly and clearly if the parents are still in any way considered to be suspects? Like they asked Redwood and he said 'no'?

Because now when Redwood said it, and Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe said it, this is not enough for the posters here.. Luz is still claiming they are still suspects in Portugal and the admin here has left Luz's post meaning the admin here is agreeing with Luz that parents are still suspects in Portugal.

Does it really matter what luz says..luz claims amaral has been cleared in court which is rubbish so no on should take any of the posts seriously

[VIXTE]

Does it really matter what luz says..luz claims amaral has been cleared in court which is rubbish so no on should take any of the posts seriously

But she is not corrected by admins.. while any other posts about Amaral are being deleted.

admins are allowing posts saying ' the parents are suspects in Portugal' ' The parents are killers' and 'parents are blah blah blah' but same time not allowing any 'forum accusations' of Amaral, this is allowing creating a sect like veil around Amaral and other conspiracy theories.

It feels like allowing paranormal into science..

[John]

From the archiving Report, final comments.


Therefore, after all seen, analysed and duly pondered, with all that is left exposed, it is determined:
 
a) The archiving of the Process concerning arguido Robert James Queriol Eveleigh Murat, because there are no indications of the practise of any crime under the dispositions of article 277 number 1 of the Penal Process Code;
 
b) The archiving of the Process concerning arguidos Gerald Patrick McCann and Kate Marie Healy, because there are no indications of the practise of any crime under the dispositions of article 277 number 1 of the Penal Process Code.
 
Article 277 number 3 of the Penal Process Code is to be fulfilled.
 
Under article 214 number 1 item a) of the Penal Process Code, the coercion measures that have been imposed on the arguidos are declared extinct.
 
Portimão, 21.07.08
 
The Republic's Prosecutor
 
(José de Magalhães e Menezes)
 
The Joint General Prosecutor
 
(João Melchior Gomes)
 
in: Processo 201/07.0 GALGS - Volume XVII - pages 4639-4649 (Public Prosecutor's Archiving Dispatch)


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