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Offline Anna

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #255 on: March 15, 2014, 12:22:13 AM »

I could be wrong, but I don't remember there being any policeWOMEN in Amaral's team - either.    And yes I agree - it was Kate who they had firmly in their sights.   The 'deal' she was offered that if she admitted to a lesser charge, Gerry could go home was proof of that IMO.

MF – Things were different in my time. She would have been under such an attack that before she realised anything, she'd be in jail.

GA – Right, but in your time, in our old times, investigation was made with fuel. Now we all move on honey. Apart from that, this is a process that is uncomfortable for everyone. Nicely archived, nice and quiet, that's how it looks better. Everyone was happy.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id173.html

She’d be in jail?
 
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Eleanor

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #256 on: March 15, 2014, 07:34:58 AM »
MF – Things were different in my time. She would have been under such an attack that before she realised anything, she'd be in jail.

GA – Right, but in your time, in our old times, investigation was made with fuel. Now we all move on honey. Apart from that, this is a process that is uncomfortable for everyone. Nicely archived, nice and quiet, that's how it looks better. Everyone was happy.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id173.html

She’d be in jail?

In other words, "What a pity we didn't dare beat up this one."  Although it doesn't seem to have stopped The PJ beating up suspects in other locations.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #257 on: March 15, 2014, 11:53:01 AM »
Yes but of course...had the case not been in the full glare of the international Press I have no doubt things would have happened differently.

Which is possibly why The Embassy Staff were so quick to arrive at the scene.  They weren't risking another Leonor Cipriano, or perhaps more to the point, another Michael Cook.  He was very badly let down by The UK Government.

Offline Anna

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #258 on: March 15, 2014, 05:21:53 PM »
It seems that any arrests can only be executed by the Portuguese Police, so are the British Police (SC) only there to investigate the disappearance and hand their findings to the Portuguese authorities?
 If this is the case, only they(PT) can assure us that there is no suspects.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
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Offline John

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #259 on: March 15, 2014, 05:29:24 PM »
It seems that any arrests can only be executed by the Portuguese Police, so are the British Police (SC) only there to investigate the disappearance and hand their findings to the Portuguese authorities?
 If this is the case, only they(PT) can assure us that there is no suspects.

An interesting point Anna.  You are correct in what you post, SY have no official status in Portugal, they are simply guests of the State as any of us would be.  They have to do everything through the Portuguese authorities so I find it curious that they were able to question a witness in a cafe not so long ago unless the PJ arranged it?   I believe it is still illegal for foreigners to carry out private investigations into criminal cases in Portugal as Metodo 3 were quick to point out.
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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Offline Anna

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #260 on: March 15, 2014, 05:35:31 PM »
An interesting point Anna.  You are correct in what you post though, SY have no status in Portugal, they are simply guests of the State as any of us would be.  They have to do everything through the Portuguese authorities so I find it curious that they were able to question a witness in a cafe.,

Arent they (SC) being followed around by a PT officer? Which may legalise their actions or similar to private investigators, where their interviewees have to be willing to answer any questions.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
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Offline VIXTE

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #261 on: March 20, 2014, 01:22:28 AM »
Just to come back to some posters with today's news... it has been reported in several Portuguese papers that the parents of Madeleine McCanns were told about this line of investigation during the meeting they had with PJ and SY.

So this is the proof that McCanns were at this meeting...  previously denied by posters on this thread..

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From Sol..

PJ source told Lusa news agency that "the information released today by the Metropolitan Police corresponds to the line of research discovered by the PJ team led by Helena Monteiro."

The same source stated that "the reopening of the investigation" legal emerged following the investigation of the suspect by the PJ.

"This line of research was made known to the English police and the parents of Maddie [Gerry and Kate McCann] at a meeting held in October 2013 at the premises of the PJ, in Lisbon," he said.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #262 on: March 21, 2014, 08:01:14 AM »
Anyone on here provide any sort of conclusive evidence that the McCanns weren't involved and I will look at it and consider it.

So far, ZILCH

Fortunately that's not how justice works...no  one has to prove innocence...

Of course in order to implicate the McCanns you and other posters have to turn our justice system on its head and invent your own system...bizarre

Offline Benice

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #263 on: March 21, 2014, 08:41:52 AM »
Fortunately that's not how justice works...no  one has to prove innocence...

Of course in order to implicate the McCanns you and other posters have to turn our justice system on its head and invent your own system...bizarre

Indeed.  It would seem that 'Guilty until proved innocent' is the preferred concept for some folk.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #264 on: July 23, 2014, 06:08:12 PM »

The inconsistencies are glaring.  The behavior is so beyond "normal" to me.   I don't know how to think abductor from that.  I feel they tried to point things to a certain scenario which to me says staging. 

IMO, the inconsistencies cannot be merely from alcohol to confusion. 


Why do you think Scotland Yard have stated categorically that the McCanns are not suspects and have been interviewing new arguidos?
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Offline Matthew Wyse

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #265 on: July 23, 2014, 09:27:37 PM »
Why do you think Scotland Yard have stated categorically that the McCanns are not suspects and have been interviewing new arguidos?

Scotland Yard are not going to divulge who may or may not be suspects in the UK so your point is mute and anyway someone can be made a suspect at any time even if they arent one presently.  As far as interviewing others in Portugual is concerned this is just them going through the motions in order to cover all loose ends.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #266 on: July 23, 2014, 10:09:55 PM »

Scotland Yard are not going to divulge who may or may not be suspects in the UK so your point is mute and anyway someone can be made a suspect at any time even if they arent one presently.  As far as interviewing others in Portugual is concerned this is just them going through the motions in order to cover all loose ends.
My point is not "mute" (sic),  the Met went out of its way to stress that neither the McCanns nor their friends were suspects.  They didn't have to do that.  If they thought there was the remotest possibility that they might be involved they would have said nothing on that subject.  If they thought the parents were involved in any way they would have insisted that they were made arguidos, not the four PT nationals that they questioned instead.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #267 on: July 23, 2014, 10:20:15 PM »
My point is not "mute" (sic),  the Met went out of its way to stress that neither the McCanns nor their friends were suspects.  They didn't have to do that.  If they thought there was the remotest possibility that they might be involved they would have said nothing on that subject.  If they thought the parents were involved in any way they would have insisted that they were made arguidos, not the four PT nationals that they questioned instead.

Do you have a link to Andy Redwood declaring neither the McCanns or their friends are people of interest ? Was the declaration in response to a question from the press and if so can you imagine the speculation if Redwood had either said they had not been ruled out of the investigation or even that he was not going to comment ?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #268 on: July 23, 2014, 10:56:49 PM »
Do you have a link to Andy Redwood declaring neither the McCanns or their friends are people of interest ? Was the declaration in response to a question from the press and if so can you imagine the speculation if Redwood had either said they had not been ruled out of the investigation or even that he was not going to comment ?

there is a clip on dutch Tv where redwood declares that the mccanns are not suspects...so I don't think there is any misunderstanding....some people just don't want to accept it as their ideas are so entrenched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otjtz8C-_p8
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #269 on: July 23, 2014, 11:09:33 PM »
there is a clip on dutch Tv where redwood declares that the mccanns are not suspects...so I don't think there is any misunderstanding....some people just don't want to accept it as their ideas are so entrenched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otjtz8C-_p8
Also here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsP9EVG4XHY