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Offline jassi

Re: Met Commissioner Sir Hogan-Howe uses the 'murder' word for the first time.
« Reply #75 on: February 23, 2014, 08:55:08 PM »
Yes, I think he was ill prepared. Tried to bullshit his way out and got caught out by his mouth working faster than his brain.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Met Commissioner Sir Hogan-Howe uses the 'murder' word for the first time.
« Reply #76 on: February 23, 2014, 08:56:30 PM »
Quote from: Sherlock Holmes on February 23, 2014, 08:52:43 PM
I think he just made a mistake.

He is not a professor of English.

4 mistakes?

Really?

3 or's and an either.

This is Britains top cop apparently, are we suppsed to believe English is his second language.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Met Commissioner Sir Hogan-Howe uses the 'murder' word for the first time.
« Reply #77 on: February 23, 2014, 08:57:54 PM »
This is ridiculous.  Just when are people going to stop hoping that The McCanns are about to be arrested.  They aren't
And if Scotland Yard wanted to arrest The McCanns they wouldn't need to be running backwards and forwards to Portugal with Rogatory Letters.
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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Met Commissioner Sir Hogan-Howe uses the 'murder' word for the first time.
« Reply #78 on: February 23, 2014, 08:58:12 PM »
Quote from: Wonderfulspam on February 23, 2014, 08:56:30 PM
4 mistakes?

Really?

3 or's and an either.

This is Britains top cop apparently, are we suppsed to believe English is his second language.

So what do you think he meant, WS?
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Redblossom

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Re: Met Commissioner Sir Hogan-Howe uses the 'murder' word for the first time.
« Reply #79 on: February 23, 2014, 08:58:26 PM »
Quote from: Sherlock Holmes on February 23, 2014, 08:46:04 PM
The words just don't make sense as he says them.

Who would have murdered Madeleine, in the circumstances as we understand them, other than an abductor or someone connected with an abductor?

(Given that he does not believe, and is not saying here, that her parents murdered her).

A murder for x y z reason and a removal of the body either from within or without the apartment, no "abduction" here as we use the term and no need for any connection with any "abductor"

And before anyone jumps down my throat, no Im not referring to the parents. Think  Im done here with this one.

Quote from: jassi on February 23, 2014, 08:55:08 PM
Yes, I think he was ill prepared. Tried to bullshit his way out and got caught out by his mouth working faster than his brain.
Cant argue much with that though either, he will know nothing much on the case. Imo
« Last Edit: February 23, 2014, 09:00:41 PM by Redblossom »
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Met Commissioner Sir Hogan-Howe uses the 'murder' word for the first time.
« Reply #80 on: February 23, 2014, 09:02:32 PM »
Quote from: Sherlock Holmes on February 23, 2014, 08:58:12 PM
So what do you think he meant, WS?

Exactly what he said, murdered or abducted. In that order.

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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Met Commissioner Sir Hogan-Howe uses the 'murder' word for the first time.
« Reply #81 on: February 23, 2014, 09:04:17 PM »
Quote from: Redblossom on February 23, 2014, 08:58:26 PM
A murder for x y z reason and a removal of the body either from within or without the apartment, no "abduction" here as we use the term and no need for any connection with any "abductor"

And before anyone jumps down my throat, no Im not referring to the parents. Think  Im done here with this one.
 Cant argue much with that though either, he will know nothing much on the case. Imo

Yes, possible that he meant that she was murdered  in the apartment and was removed and disposed of by the murderer - not abduction technically speaking.
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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Met Commissioner Sir Hogan-Howe uses the 'murder' word for the first time.
« Reply #82 on: February 23, 2014, 09:06:20 PM »
Quote from: Wonderfulspam on February 23, 2014, 09:02:32 PM
Exactly what he said, murdered or abducted. In that order.

I don't quite follow.. what is the significance of 'in that order'?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Met Commissioner Sir Hogan-Howe uses the 'murder' word for the first time.
« Reply #83 on: February 23, 2014, 09:08:59 PM »
Quote from: Sherlock Holmes on February 23, 2014, 09:06:20 PM
I don't quite follow.. what is the significance of 'in that order'?

Several lines of inquiry. Murder foremost.
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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Met Commissioner Sir Hogan-Howe uses the 'murder' word for the first time.
« Reply #84 on: February 23, 2014, 09:10:52 PM »
Quote from: Wonderfulspam on February 23, 2014, 09:08:59 PM
Several lines of inquiry. Murder foremost.

Ah.

You think this word order suggests that SY have some information pointing to her being dead?
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Estuarine

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Re: Met Commissioner Sir Hogan-Howe uses the 'murder' word for the first time.
« Reply #85 on: February 23, 2014, 09:12:07 PM »
See my post 231. I think he was caught flatfooted (pardon the drollness) and we are reading too much into it. See Robert Browning and Bob Dylan.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Met Commissioner Sir Hogan-Howe uses the 'murder' word for the first time.
« Reply #86 on: February 23, 2014, 09:13:12 PM »
Quote from: Sherlock Holmes on February 23, 2014, 09:10:52 PM
Ah.

You think this word order suggests that SY have some information pointing to her being dead?

I very much doubt they have a great deal of information to suggest she is alive.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2014, 02:08:29 PM by Wonderfulspam »
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Redblossom

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Re: Met Commissioner Sir Hogan-Howe uses the 'murder' word for the first time.
« Reply #87 on: February 23, 2014, 09:13:17 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on February 23, 2014, 08:57:54 PM
This is ridiculous.  Just when are people going to stop hoping that The McCanns are about to be arrested.  They aren't
And if Scotland Yard wanted to arrest The McCanns they wouldn't need to be running backwards and forwards to Portugal with Rogatory Letters.

I doubt anyone is hoping the Mccanns get arrested if they have done nothing wrong. That is what is ridiculous.

But most people would hope people who have done so, do get arrested, I would have thought.



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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Met Commissioner Sir Hogan-Howe uses the 'murder' word for the first time.
« Reply #88 on: February 23, 2014, 09:15:18 PM »
Quote from: Wonderfulspam on February 23, 2014, 09:13:12 PM
I very much doubt they have a great deal of informaion to suggest she is alive.

I agree with you on that but it's not the same question..

Concrete evidence pointing to murder?
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Redblossom

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Re: Met Commissioner Sir Hogan-Howe uses the 'murder' word for the first time.
« Reply #89 on: February 23, 2014, 09:16:35 PM »
Quote from: Sherlock Holmes on February 23, 2014, 09:10:52 PM
Ah.

You think this word order suggests that SY have some information pointing to her being dead?

SY are investigating with equal resources scenarios where she is either dead or alive. I have the quote somewhere. I doubt they have any concrete info so far though.
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