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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The psychology of it all - Is guilt deflected in other ways?
« Reply #90 on: February 25, 2014, 07:52:01 PM »
Thats positively spiteful, well after all, Kate does want hm to be miserable....bet it all backfires on them

He should not have written such a spiteful book...simple..everything that has happened to him is his own fault

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The psychology of it all - Is guilt deflected in other ways?
« Reply #91 on: February 25, 2014, 07:55:23 PM »
I think the total writ face value was 1.2MM Euros split 3 ways Dr Amaral, G & P + TVI; with an option to increase it [bizarre]. Some cynic (no not me honest) suggested that "they" reckoned Amaral had made about 360 grand out of it and "they" wanted it! 3 x 360 is approx 1.2mm if you round it up. Bearing in mind that Sra Duarte is losing 2:1 on aggregate it will be interesting to see whether she can finish up with a draw!

A draw! thats what I call twisted logic...like leading 1..0 at half time against man united, losing 6 1 at full time and claiming  a draw because each team won one half

stephen25000

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Re: The psychology of it all - Is guilt deflected in other ways?
« Reply #92 on: February 25, 2014, 08:00:56 PM »
Thats positively spiteful, well after all, Kate does want hm to be miserable....bet it all backfires on them

Yes Redblossom I totally agree.

kate mccanns 'book' is full of her self obsession and hatred.

How can anyone in their 'right mind'  , forgive a mythical abductor, yet spew hatred to someone who tried to solve the disappearance of her beloved daughter ?

The mere fact that many other people don't believe her story seems to have escaped her as well.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The psychology of it all - Is guilt deflected in other ways?
« Reply #93 on: February 25, 2014, 08:02:35 PM »
Just to add...amaral has lost his case re perjury...the case against the lawyer Marcus Arageo and the fraud case against his brother...so hes not actually on a winning streak

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The psychology of it all - Is guilt deflected in other ways?
« Reply #94 on: February 25, 2014, 08:04:04 PM »
Yes Redblossom I totally agree.

kate mccanns 'book' is full of her self obsession and hatred.

How can anyone in their 'right mind'  , forgive a mythical abductor, yet spew hatred to someone who tried to solve the disappearance of her beloved daughter ?

The mere fact that many other people don't believe her story seems to have escaped her as well.

I doubt she was in her right mind when she said these things and once gain you have taken words out of context

Estuarine

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Re: The psychology of it all - Is guilt deflected in other ways?
« Reply #95 on: February 25, 2014, 08:11:51 PM »
Thats positively spiteful, well after all, Kate does want hm to be miserable....bet it all backfires on them

That's probably why there's just over £1/2MM in restricted funds on the books of the limited company. Just in case!;and we don't want to have to sell the family pile do we.................
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AnneGuedes

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Re: The psychology of it all - Is guilt deflected in other ways?
« Reply #96 on: February 25, 2014, 08:13:01 PM »
Yes Redblossom I totally agree.

kate mccanns 'book' is full of her self obsession and hatred.

How can anyone in their 'right mind'  , forgive a mythical abductor, yet spew hatred to someone who tried to solve the disappearance of her beloved daughter ?

The mere fact that many other people don't believe her story seems to have escaped her as well.
She was badly advised in that forgiving claim and the negative reactions made her step back quickly.
If there are things that are unforgivable, the abduction of a child is. How would she have known ?

stephen25000

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Re: The psychology of it all - Is guilt deflected in other ways?
« Reply #97 on: February 25, 2014, 08:18:02 PM »
She was badly advised in that forgiving claim and the negative reactions made her step back quickly.
If there are things that are unforgivable, the abduction of a child is. How would she have known ?


Precisely Anne.

It never made any sense, let alone exhibited logic in the first place.

Then, very little has in this case.

Silkywhiskers

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Re: The psychology of it all - Is guilt deflected in other ways?
« Reply #98 on: February 25, 2014, 08:35:37 PM »
I wonder what everyone thinks the words 'we let her down'  mean?    If not an expression of guilt.

Apparently it is a medical phrase, used amongst surgical teams when the patients die.

I'm not sure where I read that.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The psychology of it all - Is guilt deflected in other ways?
« Reply #99 on: February 25, 2014, 08:55:20 PM »
Apparently it is a medical phrase, used amongst surgical teams when the patients die.

I'm not sure where I read that.

I don't think you read it...sounds like you just made it up...

Redblossom

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Re: The psychology of it all - Is guilt deflected in other ways?
« Reply #100 on: February 25, 2014, 09:00:13 PM »
Yes Redblossom I totally agree.

kate mccanns 'book' is full of her self obsession and hatred.

How can anyone in their 'right mind'  , forgive a mythical abductor, yet spew hatred to someone who tried to solve the disappearance of her beloved daughter ?

The mere fact that many other people don't believe her story seems to have escaped her as well.

Yes, it was reported last year
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2310279/Madeleine-McCanns-mother-Kate-says-forgive-Maddies-abductor.html

And four years after events (her book)  still hating Amaral, Im sure little has changed, thats a personal vendetta. IMO

stephen25000

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Re: The psychology of it all - Is guilt deflected in other ways?
« Reply #101 on: February 25, 2014, 09:03:27 PM »
Yes, it was reported last year
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2310279/Madeleine-McCanns-mother-Kate-says-forgive-Maddies-abductor.html

And four years after events (her book)  still hating Amaral, Im sure little has changed, thats a personal vendetta. IMO

Yes, Vendetta sums it up very aptly and then some.

Silkywhiskers

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Re: The psychology of it all - Is guilt deflected in other ways?
« Reply #102 on: February 25, 2014, 09:08:17 PM »
Yes, Vendetta sums it up very aptly and then some.

Sledge everyone but never ever yourself.

Thats the Team McCann motto.

If you lay down enough red herrings, you are going to confuse the bovine, which has been achieved admirably as we see on these pages.

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: The psychology of it all - Is guilt deflected in other ways?
« Reply #103 on: February 26, 2014, 04:30:53 PM »
From the Find Madeleine Website, Home page:

Why do we continue?
There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Madeleine has been harmed.
Madeleine is still missing and someone needs to be looking for her.
She is very young and vulnerable and needs our help.
We love her dearly and miss her beyond words.


The first two reasons given in answer to the question - and therefore presumably the most important - are another example of distancing / projection.

Point 1: This sentence is not about 'we', and is not really an answer to the question
Point 2: Someone needs to be looking for her

The third and fourth are more meaningful / personal, but they do not make it to the top of the list.

AnneGuedes

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Re: The psychology of it all - Is guilt deflected in other ways?
« Reply #104 on: February 26, 2014, 09:56:04 PM »
From the Find Madeleine Website, Home page:

Why do we continue?
There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Madeleine has been harmed.
Madeleine is still missing and someone needs to be looking for her.
She is very young and vulnerable and needs our help.
We love her dearly and miss her beyond words.


The first two reasons given in answer to the question - and therefore presumably the most important - are another example of distancing / projection.

Point 1: This sentence is not about 'we', and is not really an answer to the question
Point 2: Someone needs to be looking for her

The third and fourth are more meaningful / personal, but they do not make it to the top of the list.
Why they do  continue ? Continue what actually ?
What if they put an end to "continuing" ?
"Nothing" is wishful thinking and "absolutely" is "insulting people's intelligence" to borrow one of their favourite expressions  :  Eddie picked it up as soon as the door was open.
The interesting part is "someone needs to be looking for her".
Who is someone ? Either she's alive (and necessarily well) or she's dead. In no case does someone (who?) need to look for her. If she's alive and didn't forget who she is, she'll pop up one day. If she's dead, let the dead bury the dead.