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stephen25000

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Re: Was the book Madeleine written for cathartic or financial reasons?
« Reply #60 on: February 26, 2014, 12:41:03 PM »
You were rude to me and others by proxy, by sayng we are appalling. Still, evading the question I see. If you think a paedophile took a three yr old and she is alive today youre living in cloud cuckoo land. IMO of course! There is nothng in any shape or form to back up your theory, if there is, please share. No good sayng there are billions of people in the world.

Well said Redblossom. 8@??)( 8@??)( 8@??)(

Offline Lace

Re: Was the book Madeleine written for cathartic or financial reasons?
« Reply #61 on: February 26, 2014, 12:56:31 PM »
You were rude to me and others by proxy, by sayng we are appalling. Still, evading the question I see. If you think a paedophile took a three yr old and she is alive today youre living in cloud cuckoo land. IMO of course! There is nothng in any shape or form to back up your theory, if there is, please share. No good sayng there are billions of people in the world.

There are paedophiles who have taken young children and kept them.     

Offline Benice

Re: Was the book Madeleine written for cathartic or financial reasons?
« Reply #62 on: February 26, 2014, 01:06:23 PM »
You were rude to me and others by proxy, by sayng we are appalling. Still, evading the question I see. If you think a paedophile took a three yr old and she is alive today youre living in cloud cuckoo land. IMO of course! There is nothng in any shape or form to back up your theory, if there is, please share. No good sayng there are billions of people in the world.

I wasn't rude to you at all.    IMO Insisting that a child is dead - when there is no evidence of that at all - is dismissing a child's life and her right to be found as well as as seeking to destroy all hope in the grieving families.

IMO that is an appalling way to treat other human beings.   If you don't think it is - then that's up to you.  it doesn't mean I can't voice my opinion.

As far as I know paedaphiles do not have rules about ages.  Even babies are not safe from them. 






   
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline jassi

Re: Was the book Madeleine written for cathartic or financial reasons?
« Reply #63 on: February 26, 2014, 01:10:54 PM »
There are paedophiles who have taken young children and kept them.     

For what purpose, do you imagine?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Lace

Re: Was the book Madeleine written for cathartic or financial reasons?
« Reply #64 on: February 26, 2014, 01:15:49 PM »
How young and for how long? Why dont you back up what you say.?


Here is one case Redblossom   -   this paedophile abducted another little boy when this one got a bit too old.


Steven Gregory Stayner was kidnapped by Kenneth Parnell when he was seven years old. He was held captive for seven years.

Redblossom

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Re: Was the book Madeleine written for cathartic or financial reasons?
« Reply #65 on: February 26, 2014, 01:20:27 PM »

Here is one case Redblossom   -   this paedophile abducted another little boy when this one got a bit too old.


Steven Gregory Stayner was kidnapped by Kenneth Parnell when he was seven years old. He was held captive for seven years.

So not three, ok

Offline colombosstogey

Re: Was the book Madeleine written for cathartic or financial reasons?
« Reply #66 on: February 26, 2014, 01:40:06 PM »
No dear, not three yr olds!! You will find those that are kept for years are quadruple that age at the very least

And stop crowing about people denying Madeleine any right to be considered alive.....in this scenario it simply is not an option IMO
Of course if you can come up with any case anywhere to show otherwise

EXACTLY.

There is no way a pedophile is going to keep a three year old ALIVE for their amusements and use. They snatch children under 5 and most are found dead within a few hours sadly.  Why would a pedophile want to be burdened with looking after a crying 3 year old. GET REAL REALLY.

Most children are snatched over 7 years old and yes sadly kept in terrible conditions and used by pedophiles there is no denying that. Sick bastewards, they should have their testes cut off...

But 3 year olds no way.

Also sexual abuse is rife in families with their own children and they can be under 5 years old, even babies it makes me feel sick to my stomach to even think people can do this to their own children.

To be honest IF the child was taken by a sick pedophile she would have wished to have died without doubt and if she was my baby I would wish that for her, rather then have her abused constantly I cant bear to think of it.

Its too blo*dy naive to think the child if taken by a pedophile is still alive sadly.

thats being honest and not showing any disloyalty to the child.

Poor baby. 8(8-))

Offline Lace

Re: Was the book Madeleine written for cathartic or financial reasons?
« Reply #67 on: February 26, 2014, 01:58:58 PM »
EXACTLY.

There is no way a pedophile is going to keep a three year old ALIVE for their amusements and use. They snatch children under 5 and most are found dead within a few hours sadly.  Why would a pedophile want to be burdened with looking after a crying 3 year old. GET REAL REALLY.

Most children are snatched over 7 years old and yes sadly kept in terrible conditions and used by pedophiles there is no denying that. Sick bastewards, they should have their testes cut off...

But 3 year olds no way.

Also sexual abuse is rife in families with their own children and they can be under 5 years old, even babies it makes me feel sick to my stomach to even think people can do this to their own children.

To be honest IF the child was taken by a sick pedophile she would have wished to have died without doubt and if she was my baby I would wish that for her, rather then have her abused constantly I cant bear to think of it.

Its too blo*dy naive to think the child if taken by a pedophile is still alive sadly.

thats being honest and not showing any disloyalty to the child.

Poor baby. 8(8

A lone paedophile they say would have killed within the first two hours or so,  as there was no body found,   this was ruled out.

I cling on to the hope that she was taken to be sold for adoption, which does go on.

Offline jassi

Re: Was the book Madeleine written for cathartic or financial reasons?
« Reply #68 on: February 26, 2014, 02:08:32 PM »
A lone paedophile they say would have killed within the first two hours or so,  as there was no body found,   this was ruled out.

I cling on to the hope that she was taken to be sold for adoption, which does go on.

Not necessarily -no body has been found , as yet. The absence of a body does not exclude death.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Was the book Madeleine written for cathartic or financial reasons?
« Reply #69 on: February 26, 2014, 02:40:21 PM »
It's late,  and I'm not really up to a discourse on the 'loveliness'  of Kate McCann's book

The subject you and I have been debating is the  primary    reason for the book having been written in the first place 

You said it was  'primarily'  written by  Kate McCann  for herself  ...  a necessary personal catharsis

I said it was   'primarily'  written for financial reasons  ...  to pay the ever growing legal fees that could not have been met   without  the book having been written

I guess neither of us can definatively   be proven right,  but let us,  at least,  agree that there is no blurring of the lines where the question of     'primary'  motivation is concerned

The fact that the book focuses so heavily on Kate, her feelings, thoughts, ideas, and has a prose style that is heavily inflected with emotion and subjectivity, shows that emotional reasons were very important in its creation.

Yes, it was going to make money. But if it had been written with investigative value in mind, it would have been more fact and less emotion focused. As redblossom mentions, for example, no reference to the Smith e-fit (though they were not mentioned anywhere at that point so for continuity's sake Kate would have had to omit them).

This book was not merely a money spinner, or a setting straight of records;  nor was it an homage to Madeleine whose name is mentioned far less frequently than one would expect it to be. It is an emotional mother's emotional response.

Note that she is the author - not Gerry or a joint project.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Was the book Madeleine written for cathartic or financial reasons?
« Reply #70 on: February 26, 2014, 02:53:10 PM »
A lone paedophile they say would have killed within the first two hours or so,  as there was no body found,   this was ruled out.

I cling on to the hope that she was taken to be sold for adoption, which does go on.
Predators are now well informed about DNA, they wouldn't leave the body in some waste land, but put it in a bin. A couple of hours later it would be on a landfill, not having the shape of a body.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Was the book Madeleine written for cathartic or financial reasons?
« Reply #71 on: February 26, 2014, 03:00:45 PM »
Wasn't it thousands of parents/relatives?
Thousands of persons ready to make theirs the wee angel (as they called her) with the frightened look.

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Was the book Madeleine written for cathartic or financial reasons?
« Reply #72 on: February 26, 2014, 03:35:34 PM »
+1


Nothing but a money making exercise

one catharsises themselves to their counsellors or priests, friends or family, but they dont normally pay you for doing so

But the SUN will give you  half a million pound for extracts from your book about  a missing child and shove in our faces that I COULDNT MAKE LOVE TO GERRY because of what happened

the same group they complained about notw printing kates diary and how mentally raped she felt! as she told leveson inquiry

Got over it quick i suppose after the 125k payment as apology and half a million for extracts from her book deal


PUKE!!!
at the hypocrisy and lies

Don't know about this, red.

Not everyone has priests in today's world. People use the press and social media to display their innermost thoughts and ideas. Look at celebrity culture and the personal details that we have to hear about (as you tell so well above!)  People seem to feel the need to bear themselves in public like this - with the added benefit of being paid. And there seems to be an unslakable thirst for it among the public. That's what we have become used to, unsavoury as it is.

I do not see this book as anything different from any other celebrity offering.

Show me how it has helped the search, as presumably that would have been one of the goals in setting records straight.

Show me how it has helped the public image of the McCanns or appease their detractors.

Offline jassi

Re: Was the book Madeleine written for cathartic or financial reasons?
« Reply #73 on: February 26, 2014, 03:42:36 PM »
Don't know about this, red.

Not everyone has priests in today's world. People use the press and social media to display their innermost thoughts and ideas. Look at celebrity culture and the personal details that we have to hear about (as you tell so well above!)  People seem to feel the need to bear themselves in public like this - with the added benefit of being paid. And there seems to be an unslakable thirst for it among the public. That's what we have become used to, unsavoury as it is.

I do not see this book as anything different from any other celebrity offering.

Show me how it has helped the search, as presumably that would have been one of the goals in setting records straight.

Show me how it has helped the public image of the McCanns or appease their detractors.

The McCanns did, though, right from the start.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Was the book Madeleine written for cathartic or financial reasons?
« Reply #74 on: February 26, 2014, 03:45:48 PM »
All those books are produced by ghost writers in collaboration with the "author". I really don't think that the reserved and modest Mrs McCann would have written those "sensationalist" and vulgar details, appropriate to the Sun publication of "best' pages.
As a selling ploy it was a psychological mistake.

You think that the Sun suggested to her that she write about her daughter's genitals?