The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.

[Mr Gray]

As we are talking about the alerts of the dogs in 5a I think its important to note that Grime...the expert...has not claimed that there was a cadaver in 5a and that the alerts could be as a result of cross contamination from several different scenarios. It's not up to the McCanns or their supporters to prove why the dogs alerted...we will probably never know.

[sadie]

I don't believe it was relet

I think it was Anna, but I cant remember the details.  I think it was relet several times.  I think there was controversy about it.  Perhaps someone else can remember or find the details.

and ....PLs correct me if I am wrong

[Anna]

Thanks Anna



http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post3012.html#p3012

From the  Statement of Saleigh Gordon.




During our stay Paul cut his face whilst shaving and the cut bled for some time . Neither the children nor I injured ourselves and as far as I know nobody died in the apartment. We never noticed that any of our personal objects disappeared or were lost. Nothing strange or worrying to note, just on one occasion I heard Paul speaking to an individual on the patio that looked over the complex’s swimming pool. I can’t say who he was talking to or what they were talking about. I was inside the apartment washing some of the children’s clothes in the kitchen that faced out onto the road. I did not see anyone pass in front of the window or knock on the door.

My pleasure

[AnneGuedes]

From Grime's statements, Eddie could smell airborne scents within his training parameters. However, he stated that Keela only reacts to the physical presence of blood.

The occupants prior to the inspection had left a week before and was presumably locked up since then.

Could shoes, socks, a band-aid, or whatever, with a trace of blood on them have been left around by the previous occupants and a cleaner had removed the item prior to the actual inspection? Were those occupants ever interviewed? When did a cleaner last enter that apartment?

What would be incompatible with the dogs' reactions?

Believe it, it's obvious, the best for Eddie alerting as soon as he could smell the air of the flat are VOCs. It took him 4 minutes to find the centre of the scent cone !

[Anna]

I know I had details but cant find any right now. When the mccanns moved out, the reception booking ,was overwhelmed with Media personal wishing to rent it which they refused Of course and it was still a crime scene until the dogs came in.



Not sold: Still, two years after the apartment that Madeleine McCann disappeared from was offered for sale, it stands empty, without any new buyer. Photo: Paulo Duarte / AP Photo

The apartment from which Madeleine McCann disappeared in 2007, stands empty and bleak.

STEFAN THORSTEINSEN
02 October 2010

(Dagbladet): The Algarve holiday apartment from which Madeleine McCann disappeared in 2007 is like a "mausoleum", says one of its neighbours to the British Daily Mail.

The apartment in Praia da Luz was offered for sale over two years ago by the owner, but still it stands empty.

Madeleine was nearly four-years-old when she disappeared from the apartment while her parents were eating with friends at a nearby restaurant. One of the neighbours of the apartment says that it has not been used since the disappearance.

- "The shutters have stayed down and it is more like a mausoleum than the happy holiday letting it once was," the neighbour told the Daily Mail.

Meanwhile a new private investigation has started in Portugal which will try to find out what happened to Madeleine.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id21.html

[Mr Gray]

 
He wasn't reacting to a cadaver, there was none, as he wasn't reacting to a sex tissue, there was none.
He reacted to VOCs released by a cadaver (whose cadaver ?) before being removed (Smithman ?) and stuck in porous materials of the bedroom.
BTW, what do you have against corpses ?

You are wrong anne...a cadaver does not have to have been present in the apt to cause the alerts

[Carana]

I don't believe it was relet

There were 4 families who occupied the apartment between the time that the PJ had given the key back after the disappearance and the dog inspection. The links are on here somewhere, I'll add them when I find them again.

ETA

- At the Ocean Club, apartment 5A had been booked for the nights of 28 April through 4 May (vacating on 5th); the family stayed in apartment 4G from 4 May through 2 July (vacating on 3rd)
- Apartment 5A was subsequently let between 12 and 19 June (to friends of the owner); 28 June to 12 July (to three people with Irish names); 12 to 19 July (to an English couple) and 19 to 26 July (to a family with Southern Asian names).

  27 September 2007

2945 to 2952 Letter to Amaral from his inspectors re: investigation
2953 to 2954 Winkworth contract of McCann villa rental details

TRANSLATION BY ALBYM  &  INES
11- PROCESSO Vol 11 Page 2945 to 2956
In a letter direct to GA from DCCB dated 27 September 2007 (Vol 11 p2945):
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DCCB_LETTER.htm

[Carana]

There were 4 families who occupied the apartment between the time that the PJ had given the key back after the disappearance and the dog inspection. The links are on here somewhere, I'll add them when I find them again.

ETA

- At the Ocean Club, apartment 5A had been booked for the nights of 28 April through 4 May (vacating on 5th); the family stayed in apartment 4G from 4 May through 2 July (vacating on 3rd)
- Apartment 5A was subsequently let between 12 and 19 June (to friends of the owner); 28 June to 12 July (to three people with Irish names); 12 to 19 July (to an English couple) and 19 to 26 July (to a family with Southern Asian names).

  27 September 2007

2945 to 2952 Letter to Amaral from his inspectors re: investigation
2953 to 2954 Winkworth contract of McCann villa rental details

TRANSLATION BY ALBYM  &  INES
11- PROCESSO Vol 11 Page 2945 to 2956
In a letter direct to GA from DCCB dated 27 September 2007 (Vol 11 p2945):
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DCCB_LETTER.htm



Were any of these occupants interviewed?

[Carana]

I doubt he sat in the bathroom for 45 mins, so it could account for the blood on the tile grout. and if he dropped the towel down the back of the sofa accidentally= dried blood

The statement does say 45 minutes, but that seems awfully long. It might have been a mistake: 4-5 minutes would sound ver similar. Even so, 4-5 minutes would still be a long time to stand in one place.

[Anna]

There were 4 families who occupied the apartment between the time that the PJ had given the key back after the disappearance and the dog inspection. The links are on here somewhere, I'll add them when I find them again.

ETA

- At the Ocean Club, apartment 5A had been booked for the nights of 28 April through 4 May (vacating on 5th); the family stayed in apartment 4G from 4 May through 2 July (vacating on 3rd)
- Apartment 5A was subsequently let between 12 and 19 June (to friends of the owner); 28 June to 12 July (to three people with Irish names); 12 to 19 July (to an English couple) and 19 to 26 July (to a family with Southern Asian names).

  27 September 2007

2945 to 2952 Letter to Amaral from his inspectors re: investigation
2953 to 2954 Winkworth contract of McCann villa rental details

TRANSLATION BY ALBYM  &  INES
11- PROCESSO Vol 11 Page 2945 to 2956
In a letter direct to GA from DCCB dated 27 September 2007 (Vol 11 p2945):
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DCCB_LETTER.htm

I stand corrected. I misunderstood your question.
I assumed you meant directly after the McCanns left, not five weeks later and goodness knows how many people would have been traipsing through in the meantime.

[Anna]

The statement does say 45 minutes, but that seems awfully long. It might have been a mistake: 4-5 minutes would sound ver similar. Even so, 4-5 minutes would still be a long time to stand in one place.

Shaving cuts can go on for a while, that's why we used to see men walking about with bits of tissue on their faces also my sons    Never seen it on my hubby...................he's got a beard

[Carew]

Information from the occupants of 5B, 5D and 5H might also be useful , since the EVRD showed no interest in those apartments.

Perhaps there were no shaving related incidents.

[Wonderfulspam]

Information from the occupants of 5B, 5D and 5H might also be useful , since the EVRD showed no interest in those apartments.

Perhaps there were no shaving related incidents.

Or fishmongers.

[Carana]

Information from the occupants of 5B, 5D and 5H might also be useful , since the EVRD showed no interest in those apartments.

Perhaps there were no shaving related incidents.

Or had been aired more recently if they hadn't been locked up for a week or so.

[sadie]

Information from the occupants of 5B, 5D and 5H might also be useful , since the EVRD showed no interest in those apartments.

Perhaps there were no shaving related incidents.

Just a very quick whizz in and out in those apartments IIRC, but a prolonged stay in 5A.... little doubt with frequent prompts

Just like the cars.  Almost all the time was spent calling the dog back to the Mccanns car and tapping bits.