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Silkywhiskers

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Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #90 on: March 24, 2014, 03:12:54 AM »
As the investigation progresses things will change as people are ruled in and out of the inquiry resulting in changes of emphasis and direction. 
What won’t have changed is the initial information which caused NSY to rule Madeleine’s parents out, and that includes the dog alerts in 5a and elsewhere. 
The focus of the investigation is now firmly directed elsewhere and I for one will be astounded if it includes the parents, although nothing can be ruled out.

I think Benice has hit the nail on the head when she says something may have been discovered about the perpetrator of the attacks on British children which has caused the concern to be raised that Madeleine may have died in the apartment.

They can't have found out anything about the perp of the bed sitting attacks because

1. they don't know who he is

2. there are no other unsolved child disappearances in the Algarve

3. all he did was sit and look in 10 cases and "sexual assault" in two cases which could mean touching a butt through a pair of pjs.....NOT "rape" as alleged on this forum.

4. if the bed sitter was the perp then why did no one smell him?  Why was there no DNA, or even a butt mark on the bed?

Cariad

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Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #91 on: March 24, 2014, 07:03:43 AM »
They can't have found out anything about the perp of the bed sitting attacks because

1. they don't know who he is

2. there are no other unsolved child disappearances in the Algarve

3. all he did was sit and look in 10 cases and "sexual assault" in two cases which could mean touching a butt through a pair of pjs.....NOT "rape" as alleged on this forum.

4. if the bed sitter was the perp then why did no one smell him?  Why was there no DNA, or even a butt mark on the bed?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26646885

"The five girls - aged between seven and 10 - were sexually assaulted in their beds.

On one of these occasions, the man assaulted two girls in one villa."

So what we have is 5 assaults, two in the same location. So out of the twelve incidents that are being connected, 8 didn't include a sexual assault on a child.


We don't know what type of assault it was, nor should we. It may have been the most minor type, but I'm sure that it was still terrifying for the child involved.

"These offences are very serious and no one has been charged in connection with them. We also need to eliminate this man from our enquiries and ascertain whether these offences are linked to Madeleine's disappearance."

Sy haven't categorically stated that they think this man is involved.

12 break ins. 5 assaults on 4 occasions. No abductions. No murders. Sy believe the same man may have committed an offence in 2010, a year after Euclides Montenaro died. To connect the 2010 assault with the previous offences, there must be either evidence or the same/similar MO. none of which was abduction or murder.


Cariad

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Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #92 on: March 24, 2014, 09:24:27 AM »
You are quite right. My apologies for the error.   I have amended my post accordingly.

I've always understood 'several' as 7 or more?

The number was 5 from four families.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26646885

I don't wish to be a pain, but if we have accurate information,  we may as well use it!

Edit: It was 4 occasions, not 4 families.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2014, 09:26:12 AM by Cariad »

Offline Eleanor

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #93 on: March 24, 2014, 09:32:07 AM »
Several is anything from three upwards.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #94 on: March 24, 2014, 09:35:31 AM »
They can't have found out anything about the perp of the bed sitting attacks because

1. they don't know who he is

2. there are no other unsolved child disappearances in the Algarve

3. all he did was sit and look in 10 cases and "sexual assault" in two cases which could mean touching a butt through a pair of pjs.....NOT "rape" as alleged on this forum.

4. if the bed sitter was the perp then why did no one smell him?  Why was there no DNA, or even a butt mark on the bed?

5. He doesn't even have a face.
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ferryman

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Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #96 on: March 24, 2014, 09:41:35 AM »
Why has not the news that a lead is being followed that Madeleine might have been murdered in her bed filtered through to Gocalo Amaral?

His focus seems to be hairs in the Renault Scenic

http://portugalresident.com/madeleine-latest-raising-yet-more-questions

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #97 on: March 24, 2014, 09:48:32 AM »
Why has not the news that a lead is being followed that Madeleine might have been murdered in her bed filtered through to Gocalo Amaral?

His focus seems to be hairs in the Renault Scenic

http://portugalresident.com/madeleine-latest-raising-yet-more-questions

Maybe because that particular bit of news hasn't actually been reported, other than by you just then.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2014, 10:02:34 AM by Wonderfulspam »
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Offline sadie

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #98 on: March 24, 2014, 10:07:53 AM »
Why has not the news that a lead is being followed that Madeleine might have been murdered in her bed filtered through to Gocalo Amaral?

His focus seems to be hairs in the Renault Scenic

http://portugalresident.com/madeleine-latest-raising-yet-more-questions

Thanks ferryman.  This report also says 12 seperate crimes, but it only actually confirms that 5 were sexually abused



http://portugalresident.com/madeleine-latest-raising-yet-more-questions

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Meantime in UK, Operation Grange has revealed that it is currently receiving hundreds of calls in response to the latest announcement that a bare-chested sexual predator abused five little white girls - all older than Madeleine – while they were sleeping in their beds in holiday homes along the Algarve between 2004 and 2006.

The Met described 12 separate crimes leading up to 2010, only four of them involving the sexual abuse of girls aged 7-10.

Whether the other eight crimes involved another type of sexual abuse has not been divulged.
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Offline xtina

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #99 on: March 24, 2014, 10:11:37 AM »
well all that is on there now is the one below..........also a very good read

Madeleine latest: raising yet more questions

http://portugalresident.com/

EDIT

this is the one you need

http://portugalresident.com/someone-knows-madeleine-mccann%E2%80%99s-abductor
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #100 on: March 24, 2014, 10:15:26 AM »
well all that is on there now is the one below..........also a very good read

Madeleine latest: raising yet more questions

http://portugalresident.com/

EDIT

this is the one you need

http://portugalresident.com/someone-knows-madeleine-mccann%E2%80%99s-abductor


"I don’t know the geography of Portugal, but I know paedophiles."

http://portugalresident.com/someone-knows-madeleine-mccann%E2%80%99s-abductor


Disturbing.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #101 on: March 24, 2014, 11:04:34 AM »
The Met described 12 separate crimes leading up to 2010, only four of them involving the sexual abuse of girls aged 7-10.

Whether the other eight crimes involved another type of sexual abuse has not been divulged.
-snipped-

In the words of John McEnroe, "You cannot be serious".

Only four of them involving sexual abuse
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Brietta

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #102 on: March 24, 2014, 01:34:16 PM »
    They can't have found out anything about the perp of the bed sitting attacks because

    1. they don't know who he is

    2. there are no other unsolved child disappearances in the Algarve

    3. all he did was sit and look in 10 cases and "sexual assault" in two cases which could mean touching a butt through a pair of pjs.....NOT "rape" as alleged on this forum.

    4. if the bed sitter was the perp then why did no one smell him?  Why was there no DNA, or even a butt mark on the bed?

    1 According to numerous press reports, the PJ think it is Monteiro.  NSY have issued a description of the alleged perpetrator, although it appears that Montiero is not their target. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/466378/Scotland-Yard-and-Portuguese-police-fall-out-over-identity-of-key-Madeleine-McCann-suspect

    2  Rene Hasee vanished from Amoreira beach near Aljezur, Algarve, he has never been found. 
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-83188.html
     
    3  “all he did”? We don't really know what he did, but the children, their families and the police know, and in my opinion NSY want to speak urgently to this person because of that.
     
    4  Included in the NSY physical description is “smell”.
    It is believed that Portuguese police obtained a DNA sample from one of the attacks but there has been no match on the country’s rudimentary database.  IMO Monteiro's DNA would be on file.
    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/madeleine-mccann-search-police-hunt-tanned-darkhaired-man-with-distinctive-odour-wanted-for-sexually-assaulting-five-young-british-girls-30109771.html

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    "All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

    Offline Carana

    Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
    « Reply #103 on: March 24, 2014, 01:52:10 PM »
    Why has not the news that a lead is being followed that Madeleine might have been murdered in her bed filtered through to Gocalo Amaral?

    His focus seems to be hairs in the Renault Scenic

    http://portugalresident.com/madeleine-latest-raising-yet-more-questions

    Good question, FM.

    Did he ever find the missing hairs from the apartment which were never received for testing?

    Offline Carana

    Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
    « Reply #104 on: March 24, 2014, 01:58:14 PM »
      1 According to numerous press reports, the PJ think it is Monteiro.  NSY have issued a description of the alleged perpetrator, although it appears that Montiero is not their target.
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/466378/Scotland-Yard-and-Portuguese-police-fall-out-over-identity-of-key-Madeleine-McCann-suspect

    2  Rene Hasee vanished from Amoreira beach near Aljezur, Algarve, he has never been found. 
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-83188.html
     
    3  “all he did”? We don't really know what he did, but the children, their families and the police know, and in my opinion NSY want to speak urgently to this person because of that.
     
    4  Included in the NSY physical description is “smell”.
    It is believed that Portuguese police obtained a DNA sample from one of the attacks but there has been no match on the country’s rudimentary database.  IMO Monteiro's DNA would be on file.
    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/madeleine-mccann-search-police-hunt-tanned-darkhaired-man-with-distinctive-odour-wanted-for-sexually-assaulting-five-young-british-girls-30109771.html

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    Welcome Brietta and thanks for your fact-finding.

    I doubt that Monteiro's DNA would have been on file for a theft in the early '90s. Fingerprints, hopefully, but DNA seems somewhat dubious to me.