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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #105 on: March 24, 2014, 11:53:17 PM »
Mar 21, 2014

By Keith Kendrick

Madeleine McCann suspect tried to snatch lookalike girl

Dad claims man lured three-year-old daughter from cafe five months before Maddie's disappearance

A dad claims that the main suspect in the Madeleine McCann case tried to abduct his daughter – who is the 'double' of the missing girl.
 
The blue-eyed blonde girl's father told The Sun the man led away his daughter, then three, before Madeleine vanished.
 
He said: "Maddie and my daughter are doubles."
 
Scotland Yard revealed this week they are hunting a lone intruder who preyed on girls in the Portuguese Algarve from 2004 to 2010.
 
The dad said a man matching the description lured his girl from their cafe in the region on Christmas Day 2006.
 
He recalled: "I looked for her and saw her with a man I took to be Moroccan. We shouted and she stopped and turned. He disappeared."
 
The incident took place in Silves - 35 miles from where Madeleine was snatched five months later.
 
It was investigated by ex-cop Dave Edgar - hired by Madeleine's parents - who linked it to five attacks in the Algarve.
 
Portuguese police are said to believe the suspect is Euclides Monterio, 40, killed in a tractor accident in 2009.
 
The ex-heroin addict worked at a nearby sewage plant and called in sick days before she disappeared, and did not return for two months.
 
Widow Luisa, 40, insisted: "He didn't do anything, he was a good man."

http://www.parentdish.co.uk/2014/03/21/madeline-mccann-suspect-tried-to-snatch-lookalike-girl-says-dad/#!slide=aol_1003675



Bid to take Madeleine McCann lookalike

By ANTONELLA LAZERRI and GARY O’SHEA in Praia da Luz

Published: 21st March 2014

FAMILY claims that girl who is identical to Madeleine McCann was almost abducted 35 miles from where Maddie vanished

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icabodcrane

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Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #106 on: March 25, 2014, 12:03:46 AM »
So the man Scotland Yard are searching for is the dead black man  ? 

Offline sadie

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #107 on: March 25, 2014, 01:20:21 AM »
    So the man Scotland Yard are searching for is the dead black man  ?
    No, it seems you got that wrong.  Entirely the wrong way round


    Quote from: Brietta on March 24, 2014, 01:34:16 PM
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    1 According to numerous press reports, the PJ think it is Monteiro.  NSY have issued a description of the alleged perpetrator, although it appears that Montiero is not their target.
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/466378/Scotland-Yard-and-Portuguese-police-fall-out-over-identity-of-key-Madeleine-McCann-suspect

    2  Rene Hasee vanished from Amoreira beach near Aljezur, Algarve, he has never been found. 
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-83188.html
     
    3  “all he did”? We don't really know what he did, but the children, their families and the police know, and in my opinion NSY want to speak urgently to this person because of that.
     
    4  Included in the NSY physical description is “smell”.
    It is believed that Portuguese police obtained a DNA sample from one of the attacks but there has been no match on the country’s rudimentary database.  IMO Monteiro's DNA would be on file.
    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/madeleine-mccann-search-police-hunt-tanned-darkhaired-man-with-distinctive-odour-wanted-for-sexually-assaulting-five-young-british-girls-30109771.html
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    Offline Carana

    Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
    « Reply #108 on: March 25, 2014, 01:19:27 PM »
    DNA would hopefully have been taken from the sexual assault cases (the earliest seems to be in 2004?) I doubt that Monteiro's DNA would have been taken for a theft conviction in the early '90s.

    Silkywhiskers

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    Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
    « Reply #109 on: March 25, 2014, 09:57:27 PM »
      1
    According to numerous press reports, the PJ think it is Monteiro.  NSY have issued a description of the alleged perpetrator, although it appears that Montiero is not their target. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/466378/Scotland-Yard-and-Portuguese-police-fall-out-over-identity-of-key-Madeleine-McCann-suspect

    2  Rene Hasee vanished from Amoreira beach near Aljezur, Algarve, he has never been found. 
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-83188.html
     
    3  “all he did”? We don't really know what he did, but the children, their families and the police know, and in my opinion NSY want to speak urgently to this person because of that.
     
    4  Included in the NSY physical description is “smell”.
    It is believed that Portuguese police obtained a DNA sample from one of the attacks but there has been no match on the country’s rudimentary database.  IMO Monteiro's DNA would be on file.
    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/madeleine-mccann-search-police-hunt-tanned-darkhaired-man-with-distinctive-odour-wanted-for-sexually-assaulting-five-young-british-girls-30109771.html

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    You can stop right there.

    "Numerous press reports" have claimed the following were responsible -

    M......
    Hewlett
    Euclides
    Posh Spice
    Gypsies
    3 burglars
    cleaners
    apartment managers
    pimpleman
    eggman
    tannerman
    dark eyeglass starey man

    furthermore, Euclides was already deceased by 2010 so are we talking a phantom offender?

    Indeed, it would fit the "facts" - an undisturbed bed, materialising out of nowhere, becoming invisible when Gerry was about, leaving no traces physically or otherwise of his crimes -

    Yes, it was Euclides Ghost who took Madeleine!

    Numerous press reports say it is so!

     8-)(--)
    « Last Edit: March 27, 2014, 04:09:41 PM by John »

    Offline Brietta

    Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
    « Reply #110 on: March 27, 2014, 11:34:02 AM »

    You can stop right there.

    "Numerous press reports" have claimed the following were responsible -

    M......
    Hewlett
    Euclides
    Posh Spice
    Gypsies
    3 burglars
    cleaners
    apartment managers
    pimpleman
    eggman
    tannerman
    dark eyeglass starey man

    furthermore, Euclides was already deceased by 2010 so are we talking a phantom offender?

    Indeed, it would fit the "facts" - an undisturbed bed, materialising out of nowhere, becoming invisible when Gerry was about, leaving no traces physically or otherwise of his crimes -

    Yes, it was Euclides Ghost who took Madeleine!

    Numerous press reports say it is so!

     8-)(--)

    I am at a loss as to why I should "stop right there" as there is a real problem concerning unattributed leaks to the press which have blighted the Madeleine McCann inquiry right from the word go. 
    IMO the lessons have not been learned from the reporting debacle of 2007 which continues to influence perceptions to the present day.

    The press reports linking Euclides Monteiro to the Madeleine McCann case appear to have their genesis in leaks from a “source close to the PJ”, which have been printed first in the Portuguese press, then picked up by media world wide.
    “The unnamed man, who died aged 40 in a tractor accident in 2009, may have been motivated by revenge after being sacked by the hotel resort, Portugal’s Correio da Manha newspaper said, citing police sources.” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10415464/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-may-have-died-in-tractor-accident.html

    When Mr Murat was declared arguido by the PJ, the media could be legitimately expected to report that fact.   442 to 447 Background information on Robert Murat and Michaela Walzuch   2-Processo Vol II pages 442 to 447   http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ROBERT-MURAT.htm

    Posh Spice...  A sketch released on 6 August 2009 shows a Victoria Beckham lookalike who private detectives hired by Madeleine McCann's parents want to trace. She was seen by two British men in Barcelona three days after the little girl went missing
    Pimpleman … An e-fit of a suspect released as part of a TV documentary to mark the second anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance. The artist's impression shows a pock-marked and 'very ugly' man who appeared to be watching the apartment
    Eggman … The e-fit of a man, as drawn from memory by British-born DVD shop owner Simon Russell after being shown it by police, in Praia Da Luz, following the disappearance of Madeleine McCann
    Tannerman… A suspect described by Jane Tanner, one of the friends on holiday with the McCanns, of a man walking with a child in his arms away from the holiday apartment

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/uknews/5982953/Madeleine-McCann-E-fits-of-suspects.html?image=10

    Dark eyeglass starey man… Mario, who only started working at the Ocean Club a month before Madeleine vanished, said he identified a potential suspect to Portuguese police a few months after Madeleine went missing. He spent hours with an officer looking at pictures and videos. Investigators could then find no other evidence linking the identified man to the girl’s disappearance.  However, according to Portuguese files, officers asked British police to put more questions to this man – a full year after Madeleine vanished. Mario was 80% convinced he was the man he saw but admits he could not be sure and now six years have passed.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-witness-saw-weird-1918572#ixzz2x9cljB7A

    Gypsies   -  Gypsy link to Maddie 
    • BRITISH detectives are to return to Spain to investigate a possible gypsy link in the disappearance of Maddie McCann.  A team from Scotland Yard have already spent three days looking into claims that the youngster was smuggled into Spain and taken to Barcelona.
    They met with both Spain’s UDYCO organised crime unit and detective Dave Edgar, who has spent years investigating the Spanish claims. Now they are reported to be returning to investigate the theory that she was snatched by a child kidnap gang run by gypsies. 
    Portuguese police have already investigated a report by holidaymaker Andre van Wyk that he had seen a girl resembling Madeleine being taken in a cart to a gypsy camp near Portimao, about 16kms from where Maddie disappeared.
    Days later a British holidaymaker Jean Godwin saw a girl – ’100 per cent Madeleine’ – being dragged around by ‘gypsy women’ 35kms away. Her information was followed up by both detective Edgar working for the McCann’s and Portuguese police, but nothing was ever conclusive.
    The latest development is part of an on-going ‘investigative review’ into the girl’s disappearance in Portugal in 2007, ordered by Prime Minister David Cameron last year.  Last week, the McCann’s spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “Kate and Gerry welcome the on-going work by the Metropolitan Police and they are pleased that the investigative review is making progress.”

    http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2011/12/13/gypsy-link-to-maddie/

    Details of the evidence are contained in a 2,000-page police dossier finally published by the Portuguese authorities after requests from newspapers including the Daily Mail. It contains the testimony of Mrs Godwin, who claims she spotted Madeleine in September 2008.
    She said: ‘This was a young girl, in the middle of the two women and holding the hand of each. Her eyes were wide open and my attention was drawn to the large irises. ‘The child was wearing what was clearly a black wig. It was short, cut in a bob style and very thick. The wig was shiny and unnatural looking and out of keeping with her very pale complexion and fair eyebrows. ‘I would say she was about 3ft 1in tall and about five years of age. She was very thin and I would describe her as malnourished. Her cheeks looked gaunt. I think she had a bump on her nose. 'I am convinced that the little girl I saw that morning was Madeleine.
    I have been asked how certain I am. I will say I am 100 per cent sure.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1255297/Riddle-Madeleine-McCann-fat-gipsy-women.html

    Burglars   Police are also pursuing links to a sharp rise in burglaries in the area, and bogus charity workers approaching individuals on the resort
       
    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/15/madeleine-mccann-same-name-efit-appeal-crimewatch

    Cleaners   Now, six years after Madeleine disappeared, the laundryman has urged British detectives to speak to him. Mario believes the man he saw the night before three-year-old Madeleine disappeared in May 2007 should be on Scotland Yard’s list too.
    The divorced dad, who said he has always felt “uncomfortable” about the Portuguese police inquiry, spoke out after the Daily Mirror tracked him down at his home in the Algarve this week.
    He also believes he may be one of 12 manual workers and cleaners Scotland Yard detectives have identified as “people of interest”.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-witness-saw-weird-1918572#ixzz2x9fRSWGY

    I wasn't quite sure what point you were trying to make with your list of E-fits.
    IMO they haven't been 'dreamed up' for the sake of it, but were a genuine attempt by witness and artist to portray the people seen, and as such should not be dismissed in an offhand manner.
    « Last Edit: March 27, 2014, 04:09:14 PM by John »
    "All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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    Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
    « Reply #112 on: March 27, 2014, 12:16:55 PM »
    Mar 21, 2014

    By Keith Kendrick

    Madeleine McCann suspect tried to snatch lookalike girl

    Dad claims man lured three-year-old daughter from cafe five months before Maddie's disappearance

    A dad claims that the main suspect in the Madeleine McCann case tried to abduct his daughter – who is the 'double' of the missing girl.
     
    The blue-eyed blonde girl's father told The Sun the man led away his daughter, then three, before Madeleine vanished.
     
    He said: "Maddie and my daughter are doubles."
     
    Scotland Yard revealed this week they are hunting a lone intruder who preyed on girls in the Portuguese Algarve from 2004 to 2010.
     
    The dad said a man matching the description lured his girl from their cafe in the region on Christmas Day 2006.
     
    He recalled: "I looked for her and saw her with a man I took to be Moroccan. We shouted and she stopped and turned. He disappeared."
     
    The incident took place in Silves - 35 miles from where Madeleine was snatched five months later.

     
    It was investigated by ex-cop Dave Edgar - hired by Madeleine's parents - who linked it to five attacks in the Algarve.
     
    Portuguese police are said to believe the suspect is Euclides Monterio, 40, killed in a tractor accident in 2009.
     
    The ex-heroin addict worked at a nearby sewage plant and called in sick days before she disappeared, and did not return for two months.
     
    Widow Luisa, 40, insisted: "He didn't do anything, he was a good man."

    http://www.parentdish.co.uk/2014/03/21/madeline-mccann-suspect-tried-to-snatch-lookalike-girl-says-dad/#!slide=aol_1003675



    Bid to take Madeleine McCann lookalike

    By ANTONELLA LAZERRI and GARY O’SHEA in Praia da Luz

    Published: 21st March 2014

    FAMILY claims that girl who is identical to Madeleine McCann was almost abducted 35 miles from where Maddie vanished

    Join Sun+ to read the full story
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/5520674/Bid-to-take-Madeleine-McCann-lookalike.html

    This incident was never a snatch or attempt it was anything but.

    Diário de Notícias of May 25, 2007 (that's six months previously), telling us that;(link can be found through search archives)

        A 30 years old man, from Morocco, threatened to kidnap the three year old daughter of a woman who rents a coffee-shop at Fonte de Luzeiros, between Silves and São Bartolomes de Messines." and that the "kidnap threat was made, last Tuesday".

    See how there was no actual attempt at kidnapping Carolina Santos, only a threat, and that it all happened after Madeleine was snatched, not four months beforehand.

    But, wait there's more. The Diário de Notícias goes on to say that the woman "filed a complaint with GNR from Silves the next day, and was contacted yesterday by investigators from Polícia Judiciária, to whom she told what happened." The newspaper then said that after "Talking with local residents" they "found that the man in question is a street seller and a well known trouble maker."

    So far from "never being questioned" the family was questioned by both the GNR and the PJ, and what's more everyone knows who was responsible for causing the trouble in the first place.

    ................................................................

    So another NON EVENT, regurgitated AGAIN.....and so it goes on and on and on ........

    Offline pathfinder73

    Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
    « Reply #113 on: March 27, 2014, 12:31:45 PM »


      Why are you posting inaccuracies?  Maddie possibly not being alive when she left 5a is not a lead, [ it is a theory] ; neither is not being alive equal to murdered. Death could have been due to an accident.

    Do you think they would go to those extreme lengths to conceal a body and cry abduction if a tragic accident had happened? No if that happened incriminating factors were involved.
    Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

    Offline jassi

    Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
    « Reply #114 on: March 27, 2014, 12:49:21 PM »
    Do you think they would go to those extreme lengths to conceal a body and cry abduction if a tragic accident had happened? No if that happened incriminating factors were involved.

    Even a tragic accident could have led to consequences that were no to be contemplated.
    I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
    I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
    I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

    Or maybe not -

    OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

    Offline pathfinder73

    Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
    « Reply #115 on: March 27, 2014, 01:10:23 PM »
    I think if a tragic accident had happened it would be the last thing on your mind and wouldn't happen but if you knew incriminating factors were involved then that thinking quickly changes to panic and saving the family.
    « Last Edit: March 27, 2014, 01:13:19 PM by pathfinder73 »
    Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

    Offline jassi

    Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
    « Reply #116 on: March 27, 2014, 01:16:09 PM »
    I think if a tragic accident had happened it would be the last thing on your mind and wouldn't happen but if you knew incriminating factors were involved then that thinking quickly changes to panic and saving the family.



    I don't know - I feel it would depend on the circumstances surrounding such an accident.
    I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
    I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
    I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

    Or maybe not -

    OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

    Offline pathfinder73

    Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
    « Reply #117 on: March 27, 2014, 01:18:15 PM »


    I don't know - I feel it would depend on the circumstances surrounding such an accident.


    Possibly I don't know. I think one wasn't coping very well at the time or that mysterious visit holds the answers.
    « Last Edit: March 27, 2014, 01:20:35 PM by pathfinder73 »
    Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

    Silkywhiskers

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    Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
    « Reply #118 on: March 30, 2014, 03:36:15 AM »
    We've gone through dozens of suspects and scenarios, millions of pounds and hours of manpower, and ended up right where Amaral left off.

    One possibly deceased Madeleine in 5a, and the Smith sighting of a guy who looks like her father carrying her down to the beach.

    Of course the irony is lost on Team McCann who are still roping in tractormen, dead pedophiles, gypsies, 3 burglars, 2 germans, and a partridge in a pear tree.

    icabodcrane

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    Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
    « Reply #119 on: March 30, 2014, 03:44:40 AM »
    We've gone through dozens of suspects and scenarios, millions of pounds and hours of manpower, and ended up right where Amaral left off.

    One possibly deceased Madeleine in 5a, and the Smith sighting of a guy who looks like her father carrying her down to the beach.

    Of course the irony is lost on Team McCann who are still roping in tractormen, dead pedophiles, gypsies, 3 burglars, 2 germans, and a partridge in a pear tree.

    This post should be writ large

    That appears to be exactly where we are    ....  three years and several million pounds later   ...  right back where the Portuguese police were when the case was closed