The dogs.....

[stephen25000]

any normal person would not have a clue re the significance of the alert...there are many on here and other forums who think they do...Its what Grimes has told us that counts..according to his statements he does not confirm the alerts signify cadaver

Forensics.

inconcusive.

[Mr Gray]

You really don't like the alerts do you?

I don't like misinformation..lies basically although thats a harsh word

[Mr Gray]

Forensics.

inconcusive.

that's right...inconclusive forensics prove nothing...only conclusive forensics are of any use

[stephen25000]

that's right...inconclusive forensics prove nothing...only conclusive forensics are of any use

...............and if a body is found at some point ?

[Mr Gray]

...............and if a body is found at some point ?

it proves that sadly Maddie is dead......
It may tell us more ...who knows

[Jean-Pierre]

...............and if a body is found at some point ?

Then obviously that would change things.  Exactly how they would change depends on what is found and where.

But until that happens only a prat would attempt to extapolate any conclusions. 

[sadie]

Then obviously that would change things.  Exactly how they would change depends on what is found and where.

But until that happens only a prat would attempt to extapolate any conclusions.

   

Hear, hear !

[slartibartfast]

So we get liars and prats on one page, something has upset some posters.

[stephen25000]

So we get liars and prats on one page, something has upset some posters.

Indeed, they only say that because they fear what the reality of this case could involve.

[sadie]

So we get liars and prats on one page, something has upset some posters.

ORLY ?

[John]

The dogs alert take on no new meaning...unless forensic evidence is recovered from where the dogs alerted

Forensic evidence was recovered from the scene.

[John]

Then obviously that would change things.  Exactly how they would change depends on what is found and where.

But until that happens only a prat would attempt to extapolate any conclusions.

Exactly and if forensics put the place of death in 5a then you have closed the circle.  The dog alerts by virtue of the forensics then having evidentially reliable renders them designated as circumstantial evidence. The dog handler would in such circumstances then be required to testify.

[Mr Gray]

Forensic evidence was recovered from the scene.

nothing of any significance

[Mr Gray]

Exactly and if forensics put the place of death in 5a then you have closed the circle.  The dog alerts by virtue of the forensics then having evidentially reliable renders them designated as circumstantial evidence. The dog handler would in such circumstances then be required to testify.

if any forensics were found that put the place of death as 5A then you wouldn't need grime to testify...the dogs job was to find forensics to support death in the appt...they didn't find any

[Carana]

Forensic evidence was recovered from the scene.

Following the dog alerts in 5A? Such as?

- Nothing in the parents' bedroom (there wasn't even a forensic sweep in there as far as I can tell).

- A few alleles (5 according to Amaral, whether that is correct or not) compatible with Madeleine's profile in the living-room, which means nothing. Any of us posting on here are likely to have that many in common with her, to say nothing of the fact that she'd lived there for nearly a week as had her parents and siblings.

- The only profile that Lowe found to have a substantial proportion of alleles matching a reference sample in the living-room concerned one of the forensic cops.

- The garden yielded nothing.

Did I miss anything?