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stephen25000

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #180 on: March 27, 2014, 08:17:05 PM »
going back woud not have made a scrap of difference to the botched investigation....getting SY to investigate is the best option...well done Kate and Gerry

'well done Kate and Gerry'

For what exactly ???

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Estuarine

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #181 on: March 27, 2014, 08:26:19 PM »
We are all fully aware how much you dislike the McCanns...as regards the pj being bent...perhaps they had read about amaral and the cipriano case

When did I say I dislike the McCanns? Another gross assumption on your part.
What has the Cipriano case to do with the price of kippers?
It was Rebelo who was honcho at the time.
And however you dress it up T7 and the McCanns were a no show for the reconstitution; see what the archiving process had to say about that.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #182 on: March 27, 2014, 08:41:55 PM »
When did I say I dislike the McCanns? Another gross assumption on your part.
What has the Cipriano case to do with the price of kippers?
It was Rebelo who was honcho at the time.
And however you dress it up T7 and the McCanns were a no show for the reconstitution; see what the archiving process had to say about that.

none of this is of the slightest importance

stephen25000

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #183 on: March 27, 2014, 08:45:25 PM »
none of this is of the slightest importance

That can be applied to your support of the 'mccanns'.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #184 on: March 27, 2014, 09:12:21 PM »
Going back would not have made a scrap of difference imo...and as SY haven't asked for one....

I don't think SY could ask for a reconstruction in PDL?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline John

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #185 on: March 28, 2014, 10:34:27 AM »
going back woud not have made a scrap of difference to the botched investigation....getting SY to investigate is the best option...well done Kate and Gerry

SY are impotent in as far as a proper investigation is concerned in Portugal. They are hamstrung by red tape, the Portuguese call the tune, they hold all the cards.  That suits some people just fine though if the truth be known.

The tapas-9 refusal to cooperate with the investigation under Rebelo only served to underline the view of many people in the UK that they had something to hide.  This was a missing child inquiry after all, it wasn't a nicked wallet or camera.  Nobody seems able to give an answer to my question, where was Madeleine in all of this while they were busily saving their own miserable skins?

Bottom line.  Nothing to Hide > Nothing to Worry About!
« Last Edit: March 28, 2014, 10:44:46 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #186 on: March 28, 2014, 10:47:53 AM »
Ignoring the Team McCann Pravda style tub thumping for the moment it would have made one significant difference to the investigation....

It would have allowed the official police investigation into THEIR missing daughter to remain active and open.

Very true.  Remind me, aren't they claiming Amaral damaged the search?   @)(++(*
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Carana

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #187 on: March 28, 2014, 11:16:10 AM »
SY are impotent in as far as a proper investigation is concerned in Portugal. They are hamstrung by red tape, the Portuguese call the tune, they hold all the cards.  That suits some people just fine though if the truth be known.

The tapas-9 refusal to cooperate with the investigation under Rebelo only served to underline the view of many people in the UK that they had something to hide.  This was a missing child inquiry after all, it wasn't a nicked wallet or camera.  Nobody seems able to give an answer to my question, where was Madeleine in all of this while they were busily saving their own miserable skins?

Bottom line.  Nothing to Hide > Nothing to Worry About!

In a normal world, I'd agree with you, John. But I think that you are discounting the effect of a constant drip of PJ leaks to the tabloids. What if this had happened to your family? Imagine if you and others were supposed to go back to a country in such circumstances? In an imaginary case, to somehow prove that you hadn't collectively committed an armed robbery of a bank with hostages and whatever else, with no cctv to prove that you weren't there, or even worse in the case of a missing child? You could be placed in various positions near the bank and be instructed to perform certain actions and it would have hit the headlines all over again.

I'm not sure that I'd have gone back either if I had come to the conclusion that it was more about stitching someone up than finding out what had actually happened. With hindsight, I really don't think that Rebelo or the PM were doing anything more than box-ticking, but they couldn't have felt confident about that at the time.

Offline John

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #188 on: March 28, 2014, 11:31:50 AM »
The truth never changes with the passage of time Carana.  The tapas-9 had a moral responsibility to cooperate with the new Portuguese investigation under Rebelo, it was not for them to question the thinking behind it.  Police don't undertake criminal inquiries just for the hell of it.

What does surprise me however is why the Portuguese climb down?  Why were the tapas-9 not compelled to attend a reconstitution of events which allegedly occurred on 3 May 2007?
« Last Edit: March 28, 2014, 11:38:36 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Carana

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #189 on: March 28, 2014, 11:40:34 AM »
The truth never changes with the passage of time Carana.  The tapas-9 had a moral responsibility to cooperate with the new Portuguese investigation under Rebelo, it was not for them to question the thinking behind it.  Police don't undertake criminal inquiries just for the hell of it.

What does surprise me however is why the Portuguese climb down?  Why were the tapas-9 not compelled to attend a reconstitution of events on 3 May 2007?

You haven't answered my question. Would you have willingly gone back in the imaginary situation that I mentioned before in the knowledge that you, your family and friends had been widely accused in the press of having been involved, with no updates on what was going on in police-think?

Offline jassi

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #190 on: March 28, 2014, 11:46:15 AM »
You haven't answered my question. Would you have willingly gone back in the imaginary situation that I mentioned before in the knowledge that you, your family and friends had been widely accused in the press of having been involved, with no updates on what was going on in police-think?

I don't consider it matters what the press were saying - it is the judiciary that was important and there was no evidence that any of the group would be charged with anything.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Albertini

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #191 on: March 28, 2014, 12:09:00 PM »
You haven't answered my question. Would you have willingly gone back in the imaginary situation that I mentioned before in the knowledge that you, your family and friends had been widely accused in the press of having been involved, with no updates on what was going on in police-think?

I think you'll find it was the McCann's - out of self preservation- who turned the case into a media circus in the first instance.

The PJ, in my opinion, leaked to try and redress the negative press that Team McCann was spitting out.

ferryman

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #192 on: March 28, 2014, 12:22:56 PM »
I think you'll find it was the McCann's - out of self preservation- who turned the case into a media circus in the first instance.

The PJ, in my opinion, leaked to try and redress the negative press that Team McCann was spitting out.

"100% DNA match to Madeleine from the car"

Definite redress of "balance" ...

ferryman

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Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #193 on: March 28, 2014, 12:41:33 PM »
The truth never changes with the passage of time Carana.  The tapas-9 had a moral responsibility to cooperate with the new Portuguese investigation under Rebelo, it was not for them to question the thinking behind it.  Police don't undertake criminal inquiries just for the hell of it.

What does surprise me however is why the Portuguese climb down?  Why were the tapas-9 not compelled to attend a reconstitution of events which allegedly occurred on 3 May 2007?

To question the thinking behind a "reconstitution", distinct from a "reconstruction", was unquestionably right.

"Reconstructions" are not allowed in Portugal ...

Offline jassi

Re: The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.
« Reply #194 on: March 28, 2014, 12:42:14 PM »
"100% DNA match to Madeleine from the car"

Definite redress of "balance" ...

No doubt hyped up by whichever tabloid you are quoting from or order to sell more papers.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future