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Offline Mr Gray

Re: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?
« Reply #135 on: April 17, 2014, 10:53:11 AM »

"Police remarks 'hearten' McCanns BBC News

 

Last Updated: Sunday, 12 August 2007, 09:01 GMT 10:01 UK

 

The parents of missing Madeleine McCann have said they are "heartened" that the Portuguese police do not consider them suspects in the case.

 

Earlier, Chief Inspector Olegario Sousa publicly declared that Kate and Gerry McCann, and their friends who were on holiday with them, were not suspects.

 

He told the BBC the parents were "victims" who had lost their child and also witnesses in the case.

 

He also acknowledged for the first time that the four-year-old may be dead. "


We have heard it before, though.

So they were then made suspects without any evidence and none found in the following seven years...grasping at straws

Offline sadie

Re: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?
« Reply #136 on: April 17, 2014, 10:54:07 AM »
As it stands there are no real suspects, an unknown crime and very few leads even now nearly 7 years on.  But lets be clear, this will very quickly change if a body is found.  Being declared not a suspect is irrelevant in a live investigation, all this does is shift the focus elsewhere which suits investigators.  Redwood is nobody's fool and knows exactly what he is doing.
And * IF * a body is found, what then John?

Amaral has said he KNOWS Madeleine is dead.  How does he know that?  Will he be a suspect?



I just wish someone would dig up that damned drive.  Would stop all the speculation ... and get The Murats a new drive.

PS I actually am fairly convinced that Madeleine was still alive a couple of years ago.   If she had been kept alive for five years, then it is unlikely anyone would murder her at this late stage, two years later ... unless it would save their skin, of course. 
But it takes a special sort of person to finish off a child they have become fond of.   By fond, I am not saying sexually necessarily.

Offline Carew

Re: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?
« Reply #137 on: April 17, 2014, 10:57:20 AM »
So they were then made suspects without any evidence and none found in the following seven years...grasping at straws

It was said at that time.........whether you like it or not. That`s a "fact."

We don`t know yet what is going to follow on from Mr Redwood`s similar comment....

Offline jassi

Re: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?
« Reply #138 on: April 17, 2014, 10:59:11 AM »
I trust him...I just hope he is allowed to follow his leads in portugal

Yes, so do I, so that they can be got out of the way, once and for all.
Elimination seems to be the name of the game, so the sooner these people of interest are eliminated from enquiries, the better.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?
« Reply #139 on: April 17, 2014, 11:17:01 AM »
It was said at that time.........whether you like it or not. That`s a "fact."

We don`t know yet what is going to follow on from Mr Redwood`s similar comment....

A similar comment from two completely different police forces...Amaral and the pj THOUGHT they had evidence..bunch of idiots

Offline Mr Gray

Re: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?
« Reply #140 on: April 17, 2014, 11:18:13 AM »
Yes, so do I, so that they can be got out of the way, once and for all.
Elimination seems to be the name of the game, so the sooner these people of interest are eliminated from enquiries, the better.

I would agree...but I think he has eliminated the parents...taht's standard police procedure

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?
« Reply #141 on: April 17, 2014, 11:25:44 AM »
And * IF * a body is found, what then John?

Amaral has said he KNOWS Madeleine is dead.  How does he know that?  Will he be a suspect?



I just wish someone would dig up that damned drive.  Would stop all the speculation ... and get The Murats a new drive.

PS I actually am fairly convinced that Madeleine was still alive a couple of years ago.   If she had been kept alive for five years, then it is unlikely anyone would murder her at this late stage, two years later ... unless it would save their skin, of course. 
But it takes a special sort of person to finish off a child they have become fond of.   By fond, I am not saying sexually necessarily.

I just wish someone would dig up that damned drive.  Would stop all the speculation ... and get The Murats a new drive.

Mr Birch could be proven right, Maddie could have a decent burial, Mr & Mrs McCann could have some closure & the Murat's could have a nice new driveway.

Everyones a winner.
Christian Brueckner Fan Club

Offline John

Re: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?
« Reply #142 on: April 17, 2014, 11:30:09 AM »
It is relevant at the moment...and I can't see Redwood saying it if he wasn't very very sure. the doubters want to dismiss anything that points towards the mccanns non involvement...and theres a lot. redwood IMO has analysed the case and cant see anyway the parents were involved...have you ever known anyone else to be declared not suspects and subsequently charged....I can't

Is there a precedent to this case?  NO
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?
« Reply #143 on: April 17, 2014, 11:33:06 AM »
I trust him...I just hope he is allowed to follow his leads in portugal

I bet Barry Geiorge said exactly the same thing about the Met before he was stitched up. And to think some people have the audacity to criticise the PJ.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?
« Reply #144 on: April 17, 2014, 11:37:09 AM »
And * IF * a body is found, what then John?

Amaral has said he KNOWS Madeleine is dead.  How does he know that?  Will he be a suspect?


That must be the silliest comment you have ever posted Sadie.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?
« Reply #145 on: April 17, 2014, 11:40:18 AM »
A similar comment from two completely different police forces...Amaral and the pj THOUGHT they had evidence..bunch of idiots

You're mixing up evidence and proof again!
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline jassi

Re: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?
« Reply #146 on: April 17, 2014, 11:43:55 AM »
I bet Barry Geiorge said exactly the same thing about the Met before he was stitched up. And to think some people have the audacity to criticise the PJ.

Fortunately, with the eyes of the (media) world on this case, and the current reputation of the Met,  a stitch-up is extremely unlikely.

It is much more likely, that after extensive investigations and countless millions spent, the case will be declared as unsolvable.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?
« Reply #147 on: April 17, 2014, 11:50:12 AM »
I bet Barry Geiorge said exactly the same thing about the Met before he was stitched up. And to think some people have the audacity to criticise the PJ.

the thread you removed had M W Thomas criticising the pj...on video..no mistake

Offline sadie

Re: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?
« Reply #148 on: April 17, 2014, 11:51:13 AM »
I bet Barry Geiorge said exactly the same thing about the Met before he was stitched up. And to think some people have the audacity to criticise the PJ.
Only certain elements John.

Little doubt about it, the PJ generally were diligent.  Their "superiors " (some) let them down.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?
« Reply #149 on: April 17, 2014, 11:52:25 AM »
You're mixing up evidence and proof again!

fair point but everyone on here does....they thought they had some decent evidence whereas according to the archiving report none of it stood up