What reasons are there to doubt the McCanns' version of events ?

[Wonderfulspam]

I firmly believe that Dr McCann was searching for a living child, while dreading what she might find.

Madeleine could have been put into the dumpster by her abductor, for a variety of reasons.   

Unfortunately, because a comprehensive search was not carried out that is something we will never know, and cannot be used as criticism against the Drs McCanns. 

Neither can the failure to secure properly gathered forensics from the crime scene, or failure to collect all the available CCTV evidence be laid at their door.

That's why I said it didn't surprise me.

[jassi]

That doesn't mean it is peculiar...do you apply the same judgement to all religions

Indeed I do do, though I consider the Catholic faith more peculiar than most.

[Cariad]

why do you find going to shrines and the Vatican bizarre

Unless they had info that they would find Madeleine there (I shall refrain from making an inappropriate catholic priest joke at this point) it was probably the most useless thing they could do, short of going for a jog that is.

They left their other children to b....r off on a weekend in the Vatican!

[Alfred R Jones]

Unless they had info that they would find Madeleine there (I shall refrain from making an inappropriate catholic priest joke at this point) it was probably the most useless thing they could do, short of going for a jog that is.

They left their other children to b....r off on a weekend in the Vatican!

people "b....r off" to shrines and places of religious significance often when they are at their most desperate.  You may not understand what drives these people, however it's not at all uncommon.

[slartibartfast]

Why do you think the combined might of various police forces have been unable to substantiate any of these niggling doubts of yours in the last seven years?  BTW, I notice that one of the reasons for doubting is Scotland Yard themselves!!

That's PCs list.

[Alfred R Jones]

That's PCs list.

my mistake.  Does your list of doubts look quite different?

[icabodcrane]

my mistake.  Does your list of doubts look quite different?

How can you dismiss the doubts that others have  ? 

This case is unsolved  and none of us know what happened to Madeleine McCann

Expressing doubts  at unexplained  ( or inexplicable  )  occurences is perfectly natural in such circumstances

What is less  natural, in my opinion is the level of certainty  expressed by some that the McCanns' version of events is unquestionably correct

I mean how can you,  or anyone else,  be that   certain    ? 

[Alfred R Jones]

How can you dismiss the doubts that others have  ? 

This case is unsolved  and none of us know what happened to Madeleine McCann

Expressing doubts  at unexplained  ( or inexplicable  )  occurences is perfectly natural in such circumstances

What is less  natural, in my opinion is the level of certainty  expressed by some that the McCanns' version of events is unquestionably correct

I mean how can you,  or anyone else,  be that   certain    ?

I can dismiss doubts that are founded on misinformation and lies, I'm sure that's a perfectly acceptable thing to do.  As for your other question, let's put it this way:  I'm as certain that Madeleine was abducted by  a stranger as I am certain that so was Claudia Lawrence, despite the lack of hard evidence.  Or should I keep an open mind on that latter case too in your opinion?

[icabodcrane]

I can dismiss doubts that are founded on misinformation and lies, I'm sure that's a perfectly acceptable thing to do.  As for your other question, let's put it this way:  I'm as certain that Madeleine was abducted by  a stranger as I am certain that so was Claudia Lawrence, despite the lack of hard evidence.  Or should I keep an open mind on that latter case too in your opinion?

Why are you drawing a comparison where none exists ?

You  cannot  be  'certain'  of what happened to Madeleine McCann  ...   none of us can

[John]

Stating as fact (for example) that the McCanns refused to do a reconstruction should be substantiated, surely?  Or is it OK to put up a list containing half-truths, myths and falsehoods when explaining why one has doubts for something?

The Portuguese gave them every opportunity to participate but they collectively created so many obstacles that it never happened.

If the McCanns had really wanted to assist the investigation they would have done so and the others would have followed their example.  This for me is a significant factor in determining credibility.

In the case of a missing child the actions of the parents in the days, weeks and months afterwards are very significant.

[Mr Gray]

There may be plenty of reasons that can be used to doubt the mccanns versions but even collectively they are of no significance..imo...there were plenty of reasons to doubt Colin Stagg...who who was arrested, charged,held on remand,tried and found not guilty

[stephen25000]

There may be plenty of reasons that can be used to doubt the mccanns versions but even collectively they are of no significance..imo...there were plenty of reasons to doubt Colin Stagg...who who was arrested, charged,held on remand,tried and found not guilty

There are also very good reasons why some might not tell the truth.

Remember the get together at the Rothley Hotel on their return to the UK ?

WHY WOULD THEY NEED TO 'CONFER' ?

[Mr Gray]

There are also very good reasons why some might not tell the truth.

Remember the get together at the Rothley Hotel on their return to the UK ?

WHY WOULD THEY NEED TO 'CONFER' ?

lots of reasons...nothing sinister...if they wanted to hide anything why have the meeting at a hotel...was it in the restaurant?

[icabodcrane]

There may be plenty of reasons that can be used to doubt the mccanns versions but even collectively they are of no significance..imo...there were plenty of reasons to doubt Colin Stagg...who who was arrested, charged,held on remand,tried and found not guilty

It is not a question of  'using'   reasons to doubt  ...  that doesn't even make sense

It is about  having  reasons to doubt

I'll give you an example

When Scotland Yard released the e fits of Smithman,  that had been withheld from the public by the McCanns,  a  'doubt'  was raised in my mind

I had previously believed that  they  (  the McCanns  ) were desperate to get as much information into the public domain as possible   ...  now I have  'doubts' about that 

You see,  their  actions  raised  a doubt that I previously did not have

[Mr Gray]

It is not a question of  'using'   reasons to doubt  ...  that doesn't even make sense

It is about  having  reasons to doubt

I'll give you an example

When Scotland Yard released the e fits of Smithman,  that had been withheld from the public by the McCanns,  a  'doubt'  was raised in my mind

I had previously believed that  they  (  the McCanns  ) were desperate to get as much information into the public domain as possible   ...  now I have  'doubts' about that 

You see,  their  actions  raised  a doubt that I previously did not have

anti McCann coloured glasses..you have doubted the mccanns for years...at least TRY and tell the truth