IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.

[Wonderfulspam]

WS is making a very relevant point here Carana

It would appear that the parents of these children who were sexually assaulted in Portugal returned home to Britain and just got on with life  ...   until the Crimewatch appeal 

Why didn't they report the incidents to the British police immediately they got home  ? ...  if only because that would be the only way they could be made aware of what the Portuguese police were doing regarding investigating the crime 

It's all rather baffling

Indeed,

shrouded amongst my usual offensive wumming is the question why.

It is strange, only British kids & we only hear about it now.

Add to that, we now have umpteen witnesses of these alleged assualts, but none of them got a decent look at his face apparently.

Maybe it's just nasty cynical old me, but the story just don't make sense.

[Carana]

WS is making a very relevant point here Carana

It would appear that the parents of these children who were sexually assaulted in Portugal returned home to Britain and just got on with life  ...   until the Crimewatch appeal 

Why didn't they report the incidents to the British police immediately they got home  ? ...  if only because that would be the only way they could be made aware of what the Portuguese police were doing regarding investigating the crime 

It's all rather baffling

Many incidents were reported to the police (it's not always clear which police). A few weren't, apparently - but it's not clear if these were "near misses", or not.

[Carana]

Indeed,

shrouded amongst my usual offensive wumming is the question why.

It is strange, only British kids & we only hear about it now.

Add to that, we now have umpteen witnesses of these alleged assualts, but none of them got a decent look at his face apparently.

Maybe it's just nasty cynical old me, but the story just don't make sense.

So far, I'm not convinced that the targets were only British kids, although that's a clear lead. Tourists from other countries may have reported incidents, but there may be legal restrictions or other issues concerning updates on victims from other countries.

[Benice]

WS is making a very relevant point here Carana

It would appear that the parents of these children who were sexually assaulted in Portugal returned home to Britain and just got on with life  ...   until the Crimewatch appeal 

Why didn't they report the incidents to the British police immediately they got home  ? ...  if only because that would be the only way they could be made aware of what the Portuguese police were doing regarding investigating the crime 

It's all rather baffling

Could it be that one of the reasons it may appear to be 'baffling' is because we only have a tiny fraction of the information which SY have?   

It's clear that at least one family didn't just 'get on with their lives' - as an exerpt from one mothers's letter of complaint to the GNR about their lack of interest/action shown in what happened to their child whilst they were in Portugal is quoted in Kate's book.     

We simply don't have enough information to jump to major conclusions IMO.

[Wonderfulspam]

So far, I'm not convinced that the targets were only British kids, although that's a clear lead. Tourists from other countries may have reported incidents, but there may be legal restrictions or other issues concerning updates on victims from other countries.

I can't see there being much harm in saying 'some other european nationals have reported similar incidents'.

[Carana]

Indeed,

shrouded amongst my usual offensive wumming is the question why.

It is strange, only British kids & we only hear about it now.

Add to that, we now have umpteen witnesses of these alleged assualts, but none of them got a decent look at his face apparently.

Maybe it's just nasty cynical old me, but the story just don't make sense.

I guess you wouldn't want to lose your street cred as an offensive shock-jock WUM, but I still have hope that there's a human being lurking in there if you can transpose the situation to your own loved ones if one had disappeared.

[Carana]

I can't see there being much harm in saying 'some other european nationals have reported similar incidents'.

There could be. It's up to police forces in other countries to divulge what they wish to. Op Grange can't speak on behalf of everyone.

[Wonderfulspam]

I guess you wouldn't want to lose your street cred as an offensive shock-jock WUM, but I still have hope that there's a human being lurking in there if you can transpose the situation to your own loved ones if one had disappeared.

There is really, but don't tell anyone.

I'll let you into a secret, sometimes when I see certain pictures of the little girl who went on holiday & never made it home, it almost brings a tear to my eye.

 

[John]

Wonderfulspam raises an interesting question on the latest news on Madeleine topic so I think it should have its own thread.

It beggars belief that had these assaults taken place that MSM wouldn't have made a big deal of it going by their recent conduct.  Could it be that some parents simply never considered reporting the incidents as they perceived them to be attempted burglaries and instead opted for a quiet life and to enjoy the rest of their holiday in relative peace?

After all, many of these tourists would not be planning a return to the area so as far as they were concerned it was water under the bridge.

[Wonderfulspam]

Wonderfulspam raises an interesting question on the latest news on Madeleine topic so I think it should have its own thread.

It beggars belief that had these assaults taken place that MSM wouldn't have made a big deal of it going by their recent conduct.

Furthermore, If I were the parent of a victim of these assaults in the Algarve, lets say around 2004/5, and I heard about Maddies disappearance in 2007, I would have considered a possible connection then & not waited 7 years before I told anyone.
 

[John]

Furthermore, If I were the parent of a victim of these assaults in the Algarve, lets say around 2004/5, and I heard about Maddies disappearance in 2007, I would have considered a possible connection then & not waited 7 years before I told anyone.

There is always the incentive of a few bob from the Daily Rag.   

[ferryman]

Furthermore, If I were the parent of a victim of these assaults in the Algarve, lets say around 2004/5, and I heard about Maddies disappearance in 2007, I would have considered a possible connection then & not waited 7 years before I told anyone.

It probably all got filtered through Paivia, who no doubt promptly binned it.

[Carana]

Wonderfulspam raises an interesting question on the latest news on Madeleine topic so I think it should have its own thread.

It beggars belief that had these assaults taken place that MSM wouldn't have made a big deal of it going by their recent conduct.  Could it be that some parents simply never considered reporting the incidents as they perceived them to be attempted burglaries and instead opted for a quiet life and to enjoy the rest of their holiday in relative peace?

After all, many of these tourists would not be planning a return to the area so as far as they were concerned it was water under the bridge.

To which PT police force were they reported?

[Wonderfulspam]

There is always the incentive of a few bob from the Daily Rag.   

I can picture a scene,

I'm sat at home with the wife on the night of May 3rd 2007, my own child having been assualted near PDL a year or two previously, and the news comes on that a 3 year old girl has dissapeared, I reckon I'd be like..

Oooohh look dear, a little girl has gone missing from an apartment in PDL, that's right near where our own lttle girl was sexually assaulted inside our holiday apartment in the middle of the night, do you remember that?

Wife: oh god yes, & they never caught the b........ either, maybe we had better do something..

Me, Nah, lets just leave it about 7 years.

[Carana]

Furthermore, If I were the parent of a victim of these assaults in the Algarve, lets say around 2004/5, and I heard about Maddies disappearance in 2007, I would have considered a possible connection then & not waited 7 years before I told anyone.

Who would you have told at the time? And who would you have told in the media frenzy post-disappearance, bearing in mind tabloid door-stepping and numerous people have found their names, addresses and phone numbers accessible to every tom dick and harry on the internet?

If a child close to you had been through a traumatising experience, are you trying to tell me that you would have given the story to the UK or the PT tabloids knowing that they would have been door-stepping the family before the ink was dry?