IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.

[Wonderfulspam]

But what of the other assualts, the ones the parents knew about.

They went on nice family holidays, their kids got raped & not one of them bothered to go to the press & say...

'My daughter was sexually assualted in her bed by a nocturnal prowler, the police haven't caught him, don't go on holiday to PDL will you because there is a paedo on the loose'

But they didn't, they just let other families go there, knowing what could happen.

IMO, they should hang their non existant heads in shame.

[sadie]

But what of the other assualts, the ones the parents knew about.

They went on nice family holidays, their kids got raped & not one of them bothered to go to the press & say...

'My daughter was sexually assualted in her bed by a nocturnal prowler, the police haven't caught him, don't go holiday to PDL will you because there is a paedo on the loose'

But they didn't, they just let other families go there, knowing what could happen.

IMO, they should hang their non existant heads in shame.

Yeah, Right !


You would do that to your kids would you? 


The police are the ones you go to and your kid remains anonymous

[Wonderfulspam]

Yeah, Right !


You would do that to your kids would you? 


The police are the ones you go to and your kid remains anonymous

So you would just keep your mouth shut & let other families go there without any warning, knowing that there is a nonce intruder on the loose.

Nice.

[Carana]

No. Just.... no.

You can not blame a child for an adult's vile behaviour! You are as wrong as it's possible to be.

I imagine that each an every child who has been a victim is haunted by the idea that they are in some way responsible for their own abuse and that of subsequent children if they didn't speak out. They aren't. They are victims, not f*cking accomplices!

Jesus, I don't usually lose my rag with you WS, but how can you even consider blaming a CHILD for the actions of a paedophile??

I'm gobsmacked.

I agree, Cariad. There can be all sorts of reasons why a 10-year-old victim may not have come forward before now (and I'm not convinced that all the recent so-called victims of celebrities actually were, although a number may have been). From feeling misplaced shame to not computing that what had happened to her could be related to a 3-year-old child's disappearance until she was older... who knows? It may be a coincidence, but perhaps not. At the end of the day, she has found the courage to tell the police, whether it's related or not. Good on her.

[sadie]

So you would just keep your mouth shut & let other families go there without any warning, knowing that there is a nonce intruder on the loose.

Nice.

With all the assaults we are hearing about, any police force worthy of its name would have caught him by now.

One doesn't put ones children in a position where people can mock them and ask troubling questions of them.  Also with a stigma attached to them that might stick with them until the last of their days.

No-one wants the media knocking on their door, either, especially with salacious stuff like this


The PJ were the ones to deal with it, but seems either the parents were too frightened to use them .... or the PJ were just NOT interested. 

Like with Carolina Santos and Rene Hasee, we hear.

[icabodcrane]

With all the assaults we are hearing about, any police force worthy of its name would have caught him by now.

One doesn't put ones children in a position where people can mock them and ask troubling questions of them.  Also with a stigma attached to them that might stick with them until the last of their days.

No-one wants the media knocking on their door, either, especially with salacious stuff like this


The PJ were the ones to deal with it, but seems either the parents were too frightened to use them .... or the PJ were just NOT interested. 

Like with Carolina Santos and Rene Hasee, we hear.

I find the way you use distressing incidents involving children as a way to  'score points'  distasteful in the extreme

I really do

[sadie]

I find the way you use distressing incidents involving children as a way to  'score points'  distasteful in the extreme

I really do

Does the truth trouble you?

[Cariad]

I find the way you use distressing incidents involving children as a way to  'score points'  distasteful in the extreme

I really do

Seconded.

[Wonderfulspam]

OK Right, wumming aside for the moment, these are the things I'm still struggling to understand about these attacks.


Why an intruder would be targeting only white British girls?


Why none of the victims families saw a possible connection with Maddies disappearance, prior to October 2013.
It would have been a pretty bleedin obvious possibility to me, as mentioned previously.

[Cariad]

OK Right, wumming aside for the moment, these are the things I'm still struggling to understand about these attacks.


Why an intruder would be targeting only white British girls?


Why none of the victims families saw a possible connection with Maddies disappearance, prior to October 2013.
It would have been a pretty bleedin obvious possibility to me, as mentioned previously.

I had to Google 'wumming'.

Ok, he's entering holiday apartments, so they're almost certainly going to be foreign nationals. Why British? ummm... Coincidence? only Brits have come forward? He was purposely targeting Brits?

It's possible people didn't make the connection because  they've had ABDUCTION screamed at them for so long that they couldn't reconcile a sexual assault with MM's disappearance.

Those are just options, none of which I claim to be true. Just throwing things out there.

[carlymichelle]

This young lady is to be congratulated for her courage in coming forward to assist in the identification of this man.

This is where I have a problem,  if all the victims had spoken out sooner then further assaults could have been prevented,

Each victim who didn't is complicit in the assualt on the next kid IMO

with all  due   respect  wonderful spam i think  it is terrible to put the blame on innocent  children that is a terrible burdern to put  on a  child just imo

[Wonderfulspam]

with all  due   respect  wonderful spam i think  it is terrible to put the blame on innocent  children that is a terrible burdern to put  on a  child just imo

Yes I know it is, sorry.

It really was a terrible thing to say.

But alas, there is a little part of me that can't help thinking however unpleasant, distasteful & utterly disrespectful it might sound, it is kind of true really.

I blame the parents , they could have warned other families & possibly prevented further attacks but for whatever reason they came back to Blighty & sat on it until October last year, that I find wrong.

[Alfred R Jones]

Yes I know it is, sorry.

It really was a terrible thing to say.

But alas, there is a little part of me that can't help thinking however unpleasant, distasteful & utterly disrespectful it might sound, it is kind of true really.

I blame the parents , they could have warned other families & possibly prevented further attacks but for whatever reason they came back to Blighty & sat on it until October last year, that I find wrong.

If you can be so critical of a ten year old victim of child abuse whilst she was on holiday and blame them for the abuse of other children in the Algarve because they were too afraid or ashamed to come forward,  then I take it you are similarly critical and judgmental of all those who have only recently begun to tell their own accounts of abuse at the hands of priests and high-profile celebrities?

[Wonderfulspam]

If you can be so critical of a ten year old victim of child abuse whilst she was on holiday and blame them for the abuse of other children in the Algarve because they were too afraid or ashamed to come forward,  then I take it you are similarly critical and judgmental of all those who have only recently begun to tell their own accounts of abuse at the hands of priests and high-profile celebrities?

Indeed.

[Carana]

OK Right, wumming aside for the moment, these are the things I'm still struggling to understand about these attacks.


Why an intruder would be targeting only white British girls?


Why none of the victims families saw a possible connection with Maddies disappearance, prior to October 2013.
It would have been a pretty bleedin obvious possibility to me, as mentioned previously.

First point. Good question. Were little white British girls the only targets or are those the only ones known about so far? If the former, it's presumably someone with some kind of fixation on a particular nationality (or language) or these were families he could have known more about (through work?)

Second point - many of these families had reported these incidents to the police. What did the police do with that information?