Author Topic: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.  (Read 53650 times)

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ferryman

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Re: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.
« Reply #120 on: April 26, 2014, 09:02:08 AM »
I don't remember them inventing a crime

... or to protect or entrap individuals.

In the Colin Stagg case, the police used entrapment, the so-called honeytrap.

Lord Justice Ognal took one look at the evidence, blew a gasket, turned apoplectic and dismissed the prosecution evidence.

The whole case collapsed.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.
« Reply #121 on: April 26, 2014, 09:39:21 AM »
Right, back on topic.

"There have been seven sexual assaults involving the children of tourists in the Algarve in the last four years.
 
"They all have the same modus operandi as Madeleine's disappearance - that is, a break-in at a holiday apartment and children molested."



That's seven sets of parents who didn't do enough to highlight what had happened to their kids on holiday.

If they had spoken out more then maybe other kids would have been spared the trauma.


'Five happened before Madeleine's abduction, and two afterwards. One took place a month before she vanished.'

And they didn't say anything, heartless b......s just let other families go there unaware.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2014, 09:48:11 AM by Wonderfulspam »
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Offline jassi

Re: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.
« Reply #122 on: April 26, 2014, 09:59:09 AM »
Did these events only occur with British children, or is it only British children that our media are interested in reporting on?
I find it strange that this predator is being so selective.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.
« Reply #123 on: April 26, 2014, 10:00:46 AM »
Did these events only occur with British children, or is it only British children that our media are interested in reporting on?
I find it strange that this predator is being so selective.

Indeed,

'All the new information has come from Britain. Despite appeals in Germany, the Netherlands and Ireland, no new information has been obtained from these countries.'

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/apr/23/madeleine-mccann-police-nine-assaults-british-girls-algarve
« Last Edit: April 26, 2014, 10:03:11 AM by Wonderfulspam »
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Offline jassi

Re: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.
« Reply #124 on: April 26, 2014, 10:04:33 AM »
Perhaps other nations tend to look after their children better.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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Re: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.
« Reply #125 on: April 26, 2014, 10:10:38 AM »
Perhaps other nations tend to look after their children better.

Indeed. it is the normal practice in many other countries for families to be and dine together, e.g. in European Countries.

Offline carlymichelle

Re: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.
« Reply #126 on: April 26, 2014, 10:15:17 AM »
Indeed. it is the normal practice in many other countries for families to be and dine together, e.g. in European Countries.

here  where i live all dining places have a  play area for the kids to play while parents eat my local one  has  a huge room with a kids playground etc     inside and the parents are  about 2  seconds  away  unlike the uk and other places  australians  dont ignore children they are encourged to be with their parents

alot of   people see  the UK as    cold towards children as soon as  they are old enough  many in the uk ship their children off to boarding school etc it is a adult orintated country imo
« Last Edit: April 26, 2014, 10:19:06 AM by carlymichelle »

Offline Brietta

Re: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.
« Reply #127 on: April 26, 2014, 10:36:30 AM »
Right, back on topic.

"There have been seven sexual assaults involving the children of tourists in the Algarve in the last four years.
 
"They all have the same modus operandi as Madeleine's disappearance - that is, a break-in at a holiday apartment and children molested."



That's seven sets of parents who didn't do enough to highlight what had happened to their kids on holiday.

If they had spoken out more then maybe other kids would have been spared the trauma.


'Five happened before Madeleine's abduction, and two afterwards. One took place a month before she vanished.'

And they didn't say anything, heartless b......s just let other families go there unaware.

I don’t see it as the job of victims to publicise what they see as an isolated incident affecting their child. 

I firmly believe the policing authority are the vehicle for gathering information, investigating the evidence, collating events and taking the appropriate action. They are the ones who should be able to see the bigger picture and not a transient population of tourists.

Please do not transfer blame to the victims in these events.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.
« Reply #128 on: April 26, 2014, 10:37:33 AM »
I think I understand where WS is coming from on this.

I appreciate that must be quite difficult.


We don't know why the families involved didn't kick up a huge furore over them.

That's a bit I'm struggling with, this ain't like having your wallet nicked or getting ripped off by some bogus charity collectors.

I can see your point, but the very nature of the crime is so devastating and private that the risk of being identified in the press would just add to the trauma.   

Not everyone who has even simply been mugged (as scary as even that must be) would feel comfortable kicking up a fuss in the press, let alone publicising a sexual assault on your child.

Going to the press could well have placed the investigations in jeopardy if the families believed that the police were actually investigating them. What would that have achieved?

Offline Brietta

Re: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.
« Reply #129 on: April 26, 2014, 10:41:43 AM »
Indeed. it is the normal practice in many other countries for families to be and dine together, e.g. in European Countries.

At the moment, the information we have regarding these attacks clearly indicate that the parents were sleeping in another room when this man entered the premises.

In your opinion, do you think the parents negligent because they were not sleeping with their daughters?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

drummer

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Re: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.
« Reply #130 on: April 26, 2014, 10:42:43 AM »
here  where i live all dining places have a  play area for the kids to play while parents eat my local one  has  a huge room with a kids playground

Did your parents use it?

« Last Edit: April 26, 2014, 02:41:05 PM by John »

Offline jassi

Re: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.
« Reply #131 on: April 26, 2014, 10:46:31 AM »
At the moment, the information we have regarding these attacks clearly indicate that the parents were sleeping in another room when this man entered the premises.

In your opinion, do you think the parents negligent because they were not sleeping with their daughters?

That doesn't explain why it appears only to be British children that have been targeted.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline carlymichelle

Re: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.
« Reply #132 on: April 26, 2014, 10:48:29 AM »

Did your parents use it?

considering im 35 in july hardly 8-)(--) 8-)(--)
« Last Edit: April 26, 2014, 02:42:13 PM by John »

Offline Carana

Re: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.
« Reply #133 on: April 26, 2014, 10:49:12 AM »
Right, back on topic.

"There have been seven sexual assaults involving the children of tourists in the Algarve in the last four years.
 
"They all have the same modus operandi as Madeleine's disappearance - that is, a break-in at a holiday apartment and children molested."



That's seven sets of parents who didn't do enough to highlight what had happened to their kids on holiday.

If they had spoken out more then maybe other kids would have been spared the trauma.


'Five happened before Madeleine's abduction, and two afterwards. One took place a month before she vanished.'

And they didn't say anything, heartless b......s just let other families go there unaware.

It's not up to the families to publicise deeply traumatic events. These families may have thought that what happened to them was a one-off at the time and simply trusted the police to investigate.

Why blame the victims as opposed to the police who should have been investigating the cases?


Offline Carana

Re: IMO there were no sexual assaults on British kids in PDL.
« Reply #134 on: April 26, 2014, 11:14:09 AM »
I don’t see it as the job of victims to publicise what they see as an isolated incident affecting their child. 

I firmly believe the policing authority are the vehicle for gathering information, investigating the evidence, collating events and taking the appropriate action. They are the ones who should be able to see the bigger picture and not a transient population of tourists.

Please do not transfer blame to the victims in these events.

I hadn't read back up when I posted. Yes, that's my view as well.