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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #330 on: May 23, 2014, 03:56:58 PM »
Only getting back to this now Davel.  You claimed in your last post that Amaral was wrong in what he states in his book. I asked you if you had some special inside information to justify your own claim.  Have you?



You need to read the posts again and point out where I have said amaral is wrong...

stephen25000

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Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #331 on: May 23, 2014, 03:59:45 PM »
Yes, exactly. How anyone can claim with a straight face that Amaral doesn't accuse the McCanns of lying is beyond me. You just have to read the title!  @)(++(*

Is it with blind faith that you believe the mccanns ?

You do not know the mccanns told the truth in the first place. 8((()*/

stephen25000

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Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #332 on: May 23, 2014, 04:08:32 PM »
You need to read the posts again and point out where I have said amaral is wrong...

Can you prove Madeleine did not suffer a fatal accident ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #333 on: May 23, 2014, 04:22:17 PM »
Can you prove Madeleine did not suffer a fatal accident ?

no one is required to prove maddie did or did not have a fatal accident...after seven years you do not understand the basic facts...

stephen25000

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Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #334 on: May 23, 2014, 04:24:56 PM »
no one is required to prove maddie did or did not have a fatal accident...after seven years you do not understand the basic facts...

So why do you say Amaral was wrong  ?

Is that your blind faith in the mccanns yet again ?

and I mean blind faith 8)-)))

P.S. After 7 years your motives are all too clear.


« Last Edit: May 23, 2014, 04:26:35 PM by stephen25000 »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #335 on: May 23, 2014, 04:27:02 PM »
Only in so far as the way you present insinuation as fact.
So you have at least admitted you haven't read the book cover to cover. You now sound like Michael Wright at the trial who implied to the judge he didn't need to read the book to know it was a pack of lies.
Dr Amaral's writings include words like probably ........ So when he says "probably faked an abduction" that is not definitive is it?.
This thread however is about whether the trial is a libel trial or damages trial.Which do you think it is?

You are wrong in your assumption as to what amaral said. He may have said probably regarding that one statement but on other occasions he has stated his opinions as fact...in this respect he has been very foolish as if he had said ...IMO...he would have some defense. I have seen a tv programme where he states that maddie died in the apartment...no probably....

His book is called the truth about the lie...any ideas what he is referring to

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #336 on: May 23, 2014, 04:30:30 PM »
The word 'liar' does not appear in the Amaral book.

The word LIE...is on the front cover....
« Last Edit: May 23, 2014, 07:10:09 PM by John »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #337 on: May 23, 2014, 04:54:50 PM »
Well in the writ it will undoubtedly state the precise reasons why the damages are sought. On of the reasons suggested in the UK press is infringement of their rights.

Bump again: Any one have a copy of the writ?

I think its clear no one has a copy but amaral himself was asked in an interview about the defamation accusation and he discussed so that would indicate its part of the writ

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #338 on: May 23, 2014, 04:57:03 PM »
So why do you say Amaral was wrong  ?

Is that your blind faith in the mccanns yet again ?

and I mean blind faith 8)-)))

P.S. After 7 years your motives are all too clear.

As I have said before my support of the mccanns is based on the available evidence..plus they are supported by SY....your accusation of blind faith is basically stupid...so no surprise there

Offline Carana

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #339 on: May 23, 2014, 05:06:50 PM »
Not relevant. The trial is about the book.
The title of the book is irrelevant too. It is what is written in the book that is at issue.

Just the book? Are you sure about that?

ETA: Why would the title, such as it is, be irrelevant?
« Last Edit: May 23, 2014, 05:16:21 PM by Carana »

stephen25000

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Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #340 on: May 23, 2014, 05:10:43 PM »
As I have said before my support of the mccanns is based on the available evidence..plus they are supported by SY....your accusation of blind faith is basically stupid...so no surprise there

What evidence davel  ?

As to blind faith, yours is undeniable.

How low will you go ? @)(++(*

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #341 on: May 23, 2014, 05:11:53 PM »
Not relevant. The trial is about the book.
The title of the book is irrelevant too. It is what is written in the book that is at issue.

have you seen the writ then.....the trial is also about documentaries.. the title is extremely relavent imo...if you have followed the trial you will see it is amaral who is clearly in defence mode...perhaps you havent followed it

Offline Mr Moderator

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #342 on: May 23, 2014, 05:14:52 PM »
The word LIE...is on the front cover....

The claim was posted earlier that Amaral called the McCanns liars.  I have checked the entire book and the word liar or liars does not appear once.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2014, 07:13:37 PM by John »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #343 on: May 23, 2014, 05:15:11 PM »
What evidence davel  ?

As to blind faith, yours is undeniable.

How low will you go ? @)(++(*

you made claim that I said amaral is wrong...you failed miserably to back it up

you now try to divert.....lots of evidence to show the mcccanns innocence...and SY agree with me

stephen25000

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Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #344 on: May 23, 2014, 05:17:10 PM »
you made claim that I said amaral is wrong...you failed miserably to back it up

you now try to divert.....lots of evidence to show the mcccanns innocence...and SY agree with me

Well if you don't agree with Amaral, then you are saying he is wrong, YES or NO ?


As to evidence davey boy, what evidence ?