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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #225 on: May 07, 2014, 11:58:21 AM »
im yet to see or hear that they are digging for a body ?.... the 10.oclock news last night say they not looking for a body ?

Of course they are looking for her body otherwise why conduct searches at these places. I don't  think they expect to find her body but they will be looking for clues to see if she was concealed there on May 3rd, 2007. They have tracked the prime suspect to these search areas like I did  (see my PDL Church thread). This undoubtedly confirms they think Smithman did it.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2014, 12:02:07 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #226 on: May 07, 2014, 12:02:14 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27300312
It looks like the Portuguese are already giving the MPS the hard line on that score. They seem to be saying keep your mouths shut keep your press on a tight leash or go home.

Freedom of the press should perhaps be considered. 

Like it or not Britain is not a police state so the press cannot be 'controlled' by the police and told what to say.
Post Leveson etc: it remains to be seen how that will pan out.

Perhaps the Portuguese authorities should look in before they look out and do something about 'sources close to the PJ' leaking to the Portuguese press who have been responsible for the dramatic headlines which have plagued Madeleine's case from its inception.

One calls to mind the lurid headlines about 100% DNA etc:
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline lizzibif

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #227 on: May 07, 2014, 12:03:12 PM »
Of course they are looking for her body otherwise why conduct searches at these places. I don't  think they expect to find her body but they will be looking for clues to see if she was concealed there on May 3rd, 2007. They have tracked the prime suspect to these search areas like I did  (see my PDL Church thread).


well im only going on what I heard on the news ...because the MET are not commenting at present ...
could you provide a link to the said thread ..please ...

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Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #228 on: May 07, 2014, 12:11:27 PM »
Of course they are looking for her body otherwise why conduct searches at these places. I don't  think they expect to find her body but they will be looking for clues to see if she was concealed there on May 3rd, 2007. They have tracked the prime suspect to these search areas like I did  (see my PDL Church thread).

Well the traditional reason for hiring a fleet of backhoes would be to cut new footings for a building or lay drains.
But then that would seem to be improbable. It seems equally improbable they will be digging holes all over the oche to eliminate a pot bellied smelly bin man or dead tractor driver from their enquiries
In the context of determining what happened to Madeleine McCann a backhoe would only be useful if one were looking for buried remains, unpleasant though that may be.

Offline Brietta

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #229 on: May 07, 2014, 12:13:43 PM »
Of course they are looking for her body otherwise why conduct searches at these places. I don't  think they expect to find her body but they will be looking for clues to see if she was concealed there on May 3rd, 2007. They have tracked the prime suspect to these search areas like I did  (see my PDL Church thread). This undoubtedly confirms they think Smithman did it.

The McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “As always, we simply will not comment on operational details of Operation Grange. That is a matter for the Met Police.

“Kate and Gerry are being kept fully informed throughout.”

A source close to the couple said: “They don’t believe police are acting on any new tip-off.

“They just need to carry out their own digs, looking for any possible clues that Portuguese authorities may have missed on their previous searches.

Police have assured Kate and Gerry that it does not mean they are specifically searching for her body. They are doing searches to rule scenarios out as much as rule them in. They will be concentrating on several different places at different phases.”

Last night Scotland Yard confirmed that the case was “moving towards increased action in Portugal.”

It said “activity will occur in forthcoming weeks”.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/474418/Madeleine-McCann-Police-to-use-radar-in-hunt-for-suspect-sites-at-the-holiday-resort?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-uk-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+UK+Feed%29
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Cornelius

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Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #230 on: May 07, 2014, 12:15:44 PM »
Freedom of the press should perhaps be considered. 

Like it or not Britain is not a police state so the press cannot be 'controlled' by the police and told what to say.
Post Leveson etc: it remains to be seen how that will pan out.

Perhaps the Portuguese authorities should look in before they look out and do something about 'sources close to the PJ' leaking to the Portuguese press who have been responsible for the dramatic headlines which have plagued Madeleine's case from its inception.

One calls to mind the lurid headlines about 100% DNA etc:

I was just pointing out what A/C Mark Rowley said according to the beeb.
I don't give a toss about the rest.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #231 on: May 07, 2014, 12:16:02 PM »

well im only going on what I heard on the news ...because the MET are not commenting at present ...
could you provide a link to the said thread ..please ...

It's on this forum main page - Scroll down to "Praia Da Luz Church" Thread.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline lizzibif

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #232 on: May 07, 2014, 12:17:44 PM »
The McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “As always, we simply will not comment on operational details of Operation Grange. That is a matter for the Met Police.

“Kate and Gerry are being kept fully informed throughout.”

A source close to the couple said: “They don’t believe police are acting on any new tip-off.

“They just need to carry out their own digs, looking for any possible clues that Portuguese authorities may have missed on their previous searches.

Police have assured Kate and Gerry that it does not mean they are specifically searching for her body. They are doing searches to rule scenarios out as much as rule them in. They will be concentrating on several different places at different phases.”

Last night Scotland Yard confirmed that the case was “moving towards increased action in Portugal.”

It said “activity will occur in forthcoming weeks”.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/474418/Madeleine-McCann-Police-to-use-radar-in-hunt-for-suspect-sites-at-the-holiday-resort?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-uk-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+UK+Feed%29


Thank you for posting this  8((()*/

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #233 on: May 07, 2014, 12:23:49 PM »
The usual place one suspects. The Daily Xenophobe of which Mr Davel appears to be Emeritus Editor.


No you are wrong again...something you are making a habit of...source is the Portuguese CDM newspaper,

Lisbon (AFP) - Portuguese authorities have accepted a request from British police to search land close to the hotel where three-year-old Madeleine McCann disappeared in 2007, according to press reports on Tuesday.





"The public ministry of Portimao has authorised English police to search land close to the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz," the Correio da Manha newspaper reported, citing a source close the investigation.

The announcement comes almost seven years to the day after the young British girl's disappearance.

According to reports in both the Portuguese and British media, police officers want to use radar equipment to search for clues concerning Madeleine's disappearance.

Portuguese authorities refused to comment on the reports. Scotland Yard also made no comment


I think an apology is in order

Offline carlymichelle

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #234 on: May 07, 2014, 12:26:11 PM »
the  PJ   have refuused to allow  the supects  digs.....

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #235 on: May 07, 2014, 12:32:41 PM »
im yet to see or hear that they are digging for a body ?.... the 10.oclock news last night say they not looking for a body ?

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Maybe they are searching for that secret underground bunker she has been held captive in for the past 7 years.
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Offline Victoria

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #236 on: May 07, 2014, 12:46:32 PM »
Seems like we might finally be getting somewhere, thanks to the Met. Encouraging signs of progress.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #237 on: May 07, 2014, 01:40:31 PM »
Kate had dream of where to dig

POLICE are ready to dig up a hillside where distraught Kate McCann dreamt missing daughter Madeleine had been placed.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/5612497/Cops-ready-to-dig-for-Maddie-McCann-body-after-mother-dream.html

Detectives target FOUR sites at Praia

By ANTHONY FRANCE, Crime Reporter and ANTONELLA LAZZERI
Wednesday, May 7, 2014

POLICE are ready to dig up a hillside where distraught Kate McCann dreamt missing daughter Madeleine had been placed.

In the nightmare, Kate was drawn to the spot because so many cars were heading towards it.

The site is one of four pinpointed in a fresh British investigation into the youngster's disappearance from a Portuguese holiday apartment.

Scotland Yard believes local officers may have missed or ignored them in the hectic aftermath.

A source said the digs were not necessarily in connection with finding Madeleine's remains - but could turn up hidden clues such as clothing or documents, or metal objects like a knife or crowbar.

Madeleine, then three, vanished from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in May 2007.

Two months later Kate told her family liaison officer Insp Ricardo Paiva about the dream. He said later: "She gave me the impression she thought Madeleine was dead." The area was searched unsuccessfully with sniffer dogs.

In September 2007 shocked Kate and husband Gerry were declared suspects but were cleared the following July when Portugal's attorney general closed the case.

A British inquiry was launched in May 2011 and last October Portuguese police bowed to pressure and reopened their investigations.

They have given permission for Met Police - tipped to soon make their first arrests - to carry out the excavations, using mechanical diggers and ground-penetrating radar.

As well as the hillside, they are believed to be concentrating on a road that had been under repair near the McCanns' Ocean Club apartment, on wasteland to the south, and on land at a beach to the east.

The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "Kate and Gerry are being kept fully informed throughout." Last weekend the couple were joined by around 100 well-wishers, friends and family in their hometown of Rothley, Leics, on the seventh anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.

The McCanns thanked the public for their unstinting support and candles were lit for children around the world taken away from their parents against their will.

Gerry, 45, said the Met team were moving to a "very active" phase in their investigation, adding: "They are chipping away and obviously there is new evidence so we are going to continue to hope that we will get a happy outcome."

Earlier Kate, 46, said she sometimes returned to the resort to "walk the streets" and "look for answers."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/5612497/Cops-ready-to-dig-for-Maddie-McCann-body-after-mother-dream.html


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Offline jassi

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #238 on: May 07, 2014, 02:17:32 PM »
Kate had dream of where to dig

POLICE are ready to dig up a hillside where distraught Kate McCann dreamt missing daughter Madeleine had been placed.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/5612497/Cops-ready-to-dig-for-Maddie-McCann-body-after-mother-dream.html

Detectives target FOUR sites at Praia

By ANTHONY FRANCE, Crime Reporter and ANTONELLA LAZZERI
Wednesday, May 7, 2014

POLICE are ready to dig up a hillside where distraught Kate McCann dreamt missing daughter Madeleine had been placed.

In the nightmare, Kate was drawn to the spot because so many cars were heading towards it.

The site is one of four pinpointed in a fresh British investigation into the youngster's disappearance from a Portuguese holiday apartment.

Scotland Yard believes local officers may have missed or ignored them in the hectic aftermath.

A source said the digs were not necessarily in connection with finding Madeleine's remains - but could turn up hidden clues such as clothing or documents, or metal objects like a knife or crowbar.

Madeleine, then three, vanished from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in May 2007.

Two months later Kate told her family liaison officer Insp Ricardo Paiva about the dream. He said later: "She gave me the impression she thought Madeleine was dead." The area was searched unsuccessfully with sniffer dogs.

In September 2007 shocked Kate and husband Gerry were declared suspects but were cleared the following July when Portugal's attorney general closed the case.

A British inquiry was launched in May 2011 and last October Portuguese police bowed to pressure and reopened their investigations.

They have given permission for Met Police - tipped to soon make their first arrests - to carry out the excavations, using mechanical diggers and ground-penetrating radar.

As well as the hillside, they are believed to be concentrating on a road that had been under repair near the McCanns' Ocean Club apartment, on wasteland to the south, and on land at a beach to the east.

The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "Kate and Gerry are being kept fully informed throughout." Last weekend the couple were joined by around 100 well-wishers, friends and family in their hometown of Rothley, Leics, on the seventh anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.

The McCanns thanked the public for their unstinting support and candles were lit for children around the world taken away from their parents against their will.

Gerry, 45, said the Met team were moving to a "very active" phase in their investigation, adding: "They are chipping away and obviously there is new evidence so we are going to continue to hope that we will get a happy outcome."

Earlier Kate, 46, said she sometimes returned to the resort to "walk the streets" and "look for answers."

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/5612497/Cops-ready-to-dig-for-Maddie-McCann-body-after-mother-dream.html


There was me thinking Kate never had this dream.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDveSZZGuM

I wonder if these will be before or after they find the body?

If the Met are going to make any arrests at all, they will have to be in the UK as they have no jurisdiction to do so in Portugal. Are we being given some hidden message or just sloppy journalism ?
« Last Edit: May 07, 2014, 02:27:06 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #239 on: May 07, 2014, 02:27:22 PM »
I wonder if these will be before or after they find the body?

I can't help but think that all this talk of digging, must be incredibly damaging to the search.

Who's going to be looking for a real live findable child when, apparently, the cops ain't.

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