So where was Smithman going to that night?

[pathfinder73]

You on the  8-)(--) abuse again Pathfinder?

What is wrong with you that you need to resort to that?  I would never do that to any of you.



I agree about the steps, but at the bottom when the handful of restaurants and bars close, the lighting is not so good.  Rua 25 Abril is the main road with traffick likely at any time and is also fairly well lit.  However I am happy to agree he might have gone either way.  Most peeps are in bed early at PdL.  It is a quiet place largely inhabited by retirees.

But it is any TUNNELS that I am most interested in atm.  Planes with ground searching equipment would be able to track them, I think.  Seems there was likely one going down to the little cove/ beach.  Wonder where it came out at the top end?  If my suspicions are right, what a piece of evidence that might provide !!!!

Hmm?   >@@(*&)

Nigh Night.

 8-)(--) that was in regards to Smithman getting lost which didn't happen not you. IMO Smithman had never been down those steps before and he wasn't going to start now when everyone is looking for the child he's carrying! He used the route that he knew which was the road to the church/beach. But a map being used to possibly plot his route is backed up by photo evidence >@@(*&)

[sadie]

8-)(--) that was in regards to Smithman getting lost which didn't happen not you. IMO Smithman had never been down those steps before and he wasn't going to start now when everyone is looking for the child he's carrying! He used the route that he knew which was the road to the church/beach.

Thankyou for the explanation Pathfinder.


But how do you know he has never been down those steps before.  I dont.

I dont think there is anything that really points in either direction especially cos there are restaurants in  both directions.  And lighting.


Ultimately either direction could feasibly lead to the Church or to the steps down to the sea.


But what about TUNNELS?  Are they on ignore 

[pegasus]

8-)(--) that was in regards to Smithman getting lost which didn't happen not you. Smithman had never been down those steps before and he wasn't going to start now! He used the route that he knew which was the road to the church.

But what makes you decide that your perp had already walked your route (west from 5A then south down Rua da Escola Primaria then east along Rua 25) before?
It's possible but I see no evidence for it.

[pathfinder73]

Thankyou for the explanation Pathfinder.


But how do you know he has never been down those steps before.  I dont.

I dont think there is anything that really points in either direction especially cos there are restaurants in  both directions.  And lighting.


Ultimately either direction could feasibly lead to the Church or to the steps down to the sea.


But what about TUNNELS?  Are they on ignore 

I think they will check any tunnels but there's time constraint in my theory. Smithman had to be quick - no longer than 5 minutes to conceal the body. That means it had to be close to the church/rocks.

[pathfinder73]

But what makes you decide that your perp had already walked your route (west from 5A then south down Rua da Escola Primaria then east along Rua 25) before?
It's possible but I see no evidence for it.

There is evidence to suggest he planned his route with a map if he is identified. If he did then he would make it easy to remember to get to his destination i.e. church on map next to beach not overcomplicate it by going down narrow back lanes.

[pegasus]

... restaurants in  both directions ...

As I said there is no need at all to walk past diners in the african place, there is another junction before it.
In contrast, going east, there is no further junction before the chinese.
Easy to see both routes on streetview.

[pegasus]

There is evidence to suggest he planned his route with a map if he is identified. If he did then he would make it easy to remember to get to his destination i.e. church on map next to beach not overcomplicate it by going down narrow back lanes.

So are you stating IYO that your perp definitely walked past a restaurant?

[icabodcrane]

As I said there is no need at all to walk past diners in the african place, there is another junction before it.
In contrast, going east, there is no further junction before the chinese.
Easy to see both routes on streetview.

A military helicopter has been  hovering over the church that the McCanns had open access to,  and earth diggers are primed to dig  up the land directly behind it  as we speak   ...   and   you're  talking about  restaurants

Why  ? 

Does that really interest you more than current developments   ? 

[Silkywhiskers]

A military helicopter has been  hovering over the church that the McCanns had open access to,  and earth diggers are primed to dig  up the land directly behind it  as we speak   ...   and   you're  talking about  restaurants

Why  ? 

Does that really interest you more than current developments   ?

Lol they'll be going back to the "dogs are crap" next.

Despite the fact the dogs work is being confirmed, right before our very eyes.

So, a helicopter costs HOW MUCH an hour to run?

A military helicopter costs ....?

Add in the specialist ground penetrating radar and operators of this machinery -

We're probably talking in the region of $20k per day.

All for a WHIM after a four year investigation?

It is almost amusing to watch the excuses getting wilder and wilder....!

Tunnels! No less!

[pathfinder73]

So are you stating IYO that your perp definitely walked past a restaurant?

A military helicopter has been  hovering over the church that the McCanns had open access to,  and earth diggers are primed to dig  up the land directly behind it  as we speak   ...   and   you're  talking about  restaurants

Why  ? 

Does that really interest you more than current developments   ? 

Agreed if people are sat down at a table eating and talking I don't think they're looking out the window to see if somebody is moving quickly past in the dark. Smithman had no choice but to keep on going and keep to the route that he'd planned - he had to pass the nine eye witnesses. He had no time to waste!

[pegasus]

A military helicopter has been  hovering over the church that the McCanns had open access to,  and earth diggers are primed to dig  up the land directly behind it  as we speak   ...   and   you're  talking about  restaurants

Why  ? 

Does that really interest you more than current developments   ?

I am extremely interested in current developments.
I think its fairly obvious why I pointed out the restaurant: it has visibility over a route pathfinder proposed for his perp to get to the church area where are one or two of the current search sites.

[pathfinder73]

I am extremely interested in current developments.
I think its fairly obvious why I pointed out the restaurant: it has visibility over a route pathfinder proposed for his perp to get to the church area where are one or two of the current search sites.

Show your pictures of the restaurant please. I will take a look but I doubt if any were looking out the window at that splendid dark street view 

[pegasus]

Show your pictures of the restaurant please. I will take a look but I doubt if any were looking out the window at that splendid dark street view 

Is googlemaps ok?

[pathfinder73]

Is googlemaps ok?

I've had ad a quick look on GE and I would check to see who was dining there (Royal Garden Chinese Restaurant) and contact them to see if anybody did see anything. It's right next to where he was seen.



A list of restaurants and eating places in PDL (Paraiso, The Dolphin, Chaplins - next to church, Fortaleza - below church see video below etc.)

http://www.algarveluzbay.com/restaurants/

[a.baker]

Pathfinder - I am aware of your theories and they interest me. Do you think that Madeleines remains are still in PDL?