So what is the evidence for abduction?

[G-Unit]

Redwood said in the video;

There are two key elements. Madeleine is alive or she is dead. Our forensic analysis of the timeline shows there is clearly an opportunity there for her to have been removed from the apartment alive. That is a criminal act that has been undertaken by a stranger.

He doesn't say she is alive.
He says there was an opportunity for her to have been removed alive.
He then says 'that'(the removal of her alive) is a criminal act by a stranger.

Obviously if she was removed alive it's likely to have been by a stranger who took advantage of an opportunity in the timeline.

[mercury]

I feel like I enter the Twilight Zone every time I enter into a discussion with you.  Redwood clearly ("unequivocally" is the word used by the Guardian newspaper when reporting his words) states that as an experienced investigator he believes Madeleine was taken in a criminal act by a stranger.  There can be no dispute about this. It is a fact that her said this even if you refuse to accept it.

Nope,it's not clear at all and it's very disingenuous of you to make those remarks about all our exchanges, steady on

[mercury]

Redwood has also said she might have died in the apartment.

He also said he believes in an abduction.

So what exactly was his expertise in this type of investigation.

Since clearly he has found nothing of consequence, before his retirement.

He was covering his arse in supporting the dog evidence

[Alfred R Jones]

Nope,it's not clear at all and it's very disingenuous of you to make those remarks about all our exchanges, steady on

OK, let's ask who else agrees with you then.  Anyone?   mercury claims,  despite the overwhelming recorded evidence, that Andy Redwood did not state he believed Madeleine was taken in a criminal act by a stranger.  So, let's hear some support and justification for her view from others.

[mercury]

Redwood said in the video;

There are two key elements. Madeleine is alive or she is dead. Our forensic analysis of the timeline shows there is clearly an opportunity there for her to have been removed from the apartment alive. That is a criminal act that has been undertaken by a stranger.

He doesn't say she is alive.
He says there was an opportunity for her to have been removed alive.
He then says 'that'(the removal of her alive) is a criminal act by a stranger.

Obviously if she was removed alive it's likely to have been by a stranger who took advantage of an opportunity in the timeline.

Thank You GU! That is the short and tall of it, he never said SY believes an abduction actually took place

[stephen25000]

He was covering his arse in supporting the dog evidence

and he obviously had no problem when dogs were employed in Portugal on those various sites, and hey presto,they found nothing.

[Alfred R Jones]

Redwood said in the video;

There are two key elements. Madeleine is alive or she is dead. Our forensic analysis of the timeline shows there is clearly an opportunity there for her to have been removed from the apartment alive. That is a criminal act that has been undertaken by a stranger.

He doesn't say she is alive.
He says there was an opportunity for her to have been removed alive.
He then says 'that'(the removal of her alive) is a criminal act by a stranger.

Obviously if she was removed alive it's likely to have been by a stranger who took advantage of an opportunity in the timeline.

"it is our belief, as experienced investigators - on the evidence, that, um that you know, that that, that is as a criminal act - and that has been, you know, undertaken by by a stranger

[G-Unit]

You don't make any point.....imo

Oh dear. I suppose I have to say it again. Redwood didn't make a convincing case for excluding Tannerman, therefore his other conclusions are suspect. If you can show he did make a convincing case for getting rid of Tannerman please explain why you think that. Otherwise your posts contribute nothing.

[stephen25000]

"it is our belief, as experienced investigators - on the evidence, that, um that you know, that that, that is as a criminal act - and that has been, you know, undertaken by by a stranger

Yet what evidence exists of an abductor(s) ?

[mercury]

"it is our belief, as experienced investigators - on the evidence, that, um that you know, that that, that is as a criminal act - and that has been, you know, undertaken by by a stranger

he might have been talking of any evidence in any case there, steady on, don't put words in his mouth,and besides, where IS the evidence?

[ferryman]

In summary the (present) Portuguese/Anglo investigation is investigating that Madeline was abducted in a criminal act by (a) stranger (or possibly more than one stranger)

The shelved enquiry investigated that Kate and/or Gerry, somehow, caused Madeleine's death, covered up the "fact" of her "death" and fabricated an "abduction".

The shelved enquiry found no evidence to support any of that, as reflected in the final PJ report and the prosecutors' archiving dispatch.

It didn't investigate them for launching a fraudulent "fund" but Amaral was clearly of the view that the British should and said so in his book.

[stephen25000]

In summary the (present) Portuguese/Anglo investigation is investigating that Madeline was abducted in a criminal act by (a) stranger (or possibly more than one stranger)

The shelved enquiry investigated that Kate and/or Gerry, somehow, caused Madeleine's death, covered up the "fact" of her "death" and fabricated an "abduction".

The shelved enquiry found no evidence to support any of that, as reflected in the final PJ report and the prosecutors' archiving dispatch.

It didn't investigate them for launching a fraudulent "fund" but Amaral was clearly of the view that the British should and said so in his book.

A and not one jot of evidence of abduction.

Which of course the mccanns claimed as a fact.

So what does that make them ?

[G-Unit]

"it is our belief, as experienced investigators - on the evidence, that, um that you know, that that, that is as a criminal act - and that has been, you know, undertaken by by a stranger

They believe it's a criminal act. What is? The taking of Madeleine alive during a gap in the timeline. Who did it? A stranger. He doesn't say they believe it happened.

[mercury]

and he obviously had no problem when dogs were employed in Portugal on those various sites, and hey presto,they found nothing.

Yeah, not really sure what all that was about tbh

[mercury]

In summary the (present) Portuguese/Anglo investigation is investigating that Madeline was abducted in a criminal act by (a) stranger (or possibly more than one stranger)

The shelved enquiry investigated that Kate and/or Gerry, somehow, caused Madeleine's death, covered up the "fact" of her "death" and fabricated an "abduction".

The shelved enquiry found no evidence to support any of that, as reflected in the final PJ report and the prosecutors' archiving dispatch.

It didn't investigate them for launching a fraudulent "fund" but Amaral was clearly of the view that the British should and said so in his book.

Wrong again

The original investigation investigated many abduction leads