So what is the evidence for abduction?

[Mr Gray]

You know nothing about me davel, and never will. Your assumptions are mistaken, amusing and are not taken seriously.

My conclusions about you are based on your posts and are not assumptions

[Mr Gray]

I am not a fan of the McCanns but I respect them enough to always refer to their daughter as Madeleine, because Kate McCann says they never shortened her name. We don't know what evidence the police have, and any evidence which SY collect has to be presented to the Portuguese authorities who will then decide whether to act upon it or not. If they say no, SY can't do anything about it themselves unless it points to a British person committing a serious crime. They have no authority to arrest any Portuguese people.

I want justice for Madeleine, but I also want to be sure that the investigations reach the correct conclusions and arrest and charge the correct people. SY have failed to do this in some cases, as have the PJ, so I'm happy to have both police forces working on the case as that's the best way to arrive at the correct conclusions.

Whatever charge is finally brought is fine by me so long as the evidence is clear and stands up in court. I will be surprised if abduction is the charge, because there was no evidence of it at the time, but if the two police forces find it, fair enough.

I cannot see how questioning their honesty...as you do...is showing them respect

[stephen25000]

I cannot see how questioning their honesty...as you do...is showing them respect

How do you know the mccanns have told the truth ?

[Alice Purjorick]

How do you know the mccanns have told the truth ?

Winwood ,Clapton, Baker & Grech maybe?

[Mr Gray]

How do you know the mccanns have told the truth ?

it's a matter of judgement....taking everything into consideration and reaching a conclusion...that's what SY will have done

[Anna]

Simple as that? Not through the window, it seems, so why?

Whoever entered 5A and took Madeleine, IMO would probably have used the front door, which was hidden from view because of where it is situated and the trees served to cover any activity in that area.

Whether she was then passed out of the window or removed via the door and passed over the wall by the passageway to another person, waiting to go off with her, is unknown.
As we all know, she was removed by someone, that's for sure.

[G-Unit]

I cannot see how questioning their honesty...as you do...is showing them respect

I have quoted examples where their stories have changed. I have quoted examples where what they say is contradicted by other witness statements. I have made no unsupported allegations, I have cites for what I say.

[Mr Gray]

I have quoted examples where their stories have changed. I have quoted examples where what they say is contradicted by other witness statements. I have made no unsupported allegations, I have cites for what I say.

I don't believe their stories have changed...you are accusing them falsely.....all your allegations are based on twice translated files...which are not accurate

[G-Unit]

I don't believe their stories have changed...you are accusing them falsely.....all your allegations are based on twice translated files...which are not accurate

Well, lets face it. You only believe two things. The McCanns are innocent. Madeleine was abducted. The coloboma debacle. Nothing to do with the files. Look, look, look into my eyes...the right eye.

[Mr Gray]

Well, lets face it. You only believe two things. The McCanns are innocent. Madeleine was abducted. The coloboma debacle. Nothing to do with the files. Look, look, look into my eyes...the right eye.

talking of eyes...I think you must be blind....

there's no coloboma debacle...just more of your imagination

the files contain statements that have been translated twice over so are not accurate

[stephen25000]

talking of eyes...I think you must be blind....

there's no coloboma debacle...just more of your imagination

the files contain statements that have been translated twice over so are not accurate

There was a debacle.

The mccanns were told/advised not to engage with it.

They still did.

[Brietta]

I have quoted examples where their stories have changed. I have quoted examples where what they say is contradicted by other witness statements. I have made no unsupported allegations, I have cites for what I say.

You are working from a very flawed basis indeed.  Reading two or three mistranslated sentences of Dostoyevsky  does not equate with understanding the plot of The Idiot.

[stephen25000]

You are working from a very flawed basis indeed.  Reading two or three mistranslated sentences of Dostoyevsky  does not equate with understanding the plot of The Idiot.

That is your opinion and hardly surprising.

[G-Unit]

There was a debacle.

The mccanns were told/advised not to engage with it.

They still did.

Then shrugged it off on the Piers Morgan show 'we didn't make much of it really'. Really? All those posters showing her eye. The appeal on the Lancet website to health professionals to look for her coloboma. 

[stephen25000]

Then shrugged it off on the Piers Morgan show 'we didn't make much of it really'. Really? All those posters showing her eye. The appeal on the Lancet website to health professionals to look for her coloboma. 

Someone should tell gerry, it was a bad marketing ploy. *&*%£