Bamber tries to sell nude pictures of Sheila to The Sun newspaper

[Aunt Agatha]

how did the Sun know nude photos existed?

I have no idea....people do a lot of guessing on here.

I’m guessing right now...I guess with her being a model they might have asked him if there were any.   All I know is they asked for them, he said no!

[Myster]

You’re all telling me about the photos and Colin ‘s seen them or something...or Brett whatever,

I’m stating Jeremy denied ever trying to sell any nude photos to a newspaper. They asked for some. He said no.

Now if you are telling me that photos do exist, I cannot say otherwise, because I haven’t seen them nor was I told that any did exist.

I hope that clears that up.

It seems that your Jeremy denies many things, including the one most sane people believe in... that he killed his entire close family...

From "Murders at White House Farm" by Carol Ann Lee...

"On Monday 16 September, Jeremy and Brett lunched in a Chelmsford pub with Sun journalist Michael Fielder. Brett had met Fielder the previous week, when he rang the newspaper to offer them a story on Jeremy in return for a lift back to Chelmsford. ‘Bambi Police Blaming My Pal Jeremy’ had appeared in Friday’s paper. Fielder later gave a detailed account of their Monday meeting, stating that Jeremy wanted £20,000 for twenty nude photographs of Sheila and a large fee for his life story. Fielder agreed to view the photographs at Morshead Mansions but his editor vetoed it, sensing that a story about Jeremy’s attempts to sell the photographs would make for more explosive headlines than explicit shots they couldn’t publish anyway. The Sun ran the piece the following day, telling its readers: ‘The brother of farmhouse massacre model Bambi Caffell was trying to cash in on the horror yesterday – by peddling soft-porn pictures of her. Smiling Jeremy Bamber, 24, offered topless and full frontal nude pictures of Bambi for “a substantial sum.”’ Jeremy was quoted as saying, ‘Unless the offer is really good, I’m not interested.’
An affiliate website to Jeremy’s campaign pages today denounces Fielder’s account, insisting that Jeremy met the Sun reporter against his better judgment and that Fielder repeatedly pressed for any nude shots of Sheila which were ‘never obtained’ because ‘they didn’t exist’. But Sheila’s friend has spoken at length about helping her prepare for the photo session, and Colin saw the resulting slides for himself, discussing them both in his witness statements and his memoir. He recalls that Jeremy’s description of the photographs to Fielder – ‘They show everything, right down to the last detail’ – was identical to the words Jeremy had used to him.
The Evening Standard ran a follow up story that day, after one of their journalists spoke to Jeremy at Sheila’s flat. Peter Gruner recalled that Jeremy hadn’t denied the Sun’s claims, responding, ‘That is interesting, but I have yet to read the papers today,’ although he did confirm, ‘I want a lot of money for my story, about £100,000. I think newspapers tend to make up stories about me.’ Colin saw the headlines in Cornwall only moments after posting a letter to Jeremy in which he expressed concern about the photographs. He immediately wrote a second letter expressing anger that Jeremy had tried to sell the images. He then regretted it, fearing he had placed himself in danger."

[mrswah]

It seems that your Jeremy denies many things, including the one most sane people believe in... that he killed his entire close family...

From "Murders at White House Farm" by Carol Ann Lee...

"On Monday 16 September, Jeremy and Brett lunched in a Chelmsford pub with Sun journalist Michael Fielder. Brett had met Fielder the previous week, when he rang the newspaper to offer them a story on Jeremy in return for a lift back to Chelmsford. ‘Bambi Police Blaming My Pal Jeremy’ had appeared in Friday’s paper. Fielder later gave a detailed account of their Monday meeting, stating that Jeremy wanted £20,000 for twenty nude photographs of Sheila and a large fee for his life story. Fielder agreed to view the photographs at Morshead Mansions but his editor vetoed it, sensing that a story about Jeremy’s attempts to sell the photographs would make for more explosive headlines than explicit shots they couldn’t publish anyway. The Sun ran the piece the following day, telling its readers: ‘The brother of farmhouse massacre model Bambi Caffell was trying to cash in on the horror yesterday – by peddling soft-porn pictures of her. Smiling Jeremy Bamber, 24, offered topless and full frontal nude pictures of Bambi for “a substantial sum.”’ Jeremy was quoted as saying, ‘Unless the offer is really good, I’m not interested.’
An affiliate website to Jeremy’s campaign pages today denounces Fielder’s account, insisting that Jeremy met the Sun reporter against his better judgment and that Fielder repeatedly pressed for any nude shots of Sheila which were ‘never obtained’ because ‘they didn’t exist’. But Sheila’s friend has spoken at length about helping her prepare for the photo session, and Colin saw the resulting slides for himself, discussing them both in his witness statements and his memoir. He recalls that Jeremy’s description of the photographs to Fielder – ‘They show everything, right down to the last detail’ – was identical to the words Jeremy had used to him.
The Evening Standard ran a follow up story that day, after one of their journalists spoke to Jeremy at Sheila’s flat. Peter Gruner recalled that Jeremy hadn’t denied the Sun’s claims, responding, ‘That is interesting, but I have yet to read the papers today,’ although he did confirm, ‘I want a lot of money for my story, about £100,000. I think newspapers tend to make up stories about me.’ Colin saw the headlines in Cornwall only moments after posting a letter to Jeremy in which he expressed concern about the photographs. He immediately wrote a second letter expressing anger that Jeremy had tried to sell the images. He then regretted it, fearing he had placed himself in danger."

Hm---excuse me, Myster. I am a perfectly sane person, and I am not sure that Jeremy Bamber murdered his family!

[Caroline]

I have no idea....people do a lot of guessing on here.

I’m guessing right now...I guess with her being a model they might have asked him if there were any.   All I know is they asked for them, he said no!

They wouldn't know he had then AA and it's too much of a coinicidence that just days before the article, he told Colin he had the pictures and used the same words that appeared in The Sun.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I thought EP checked out his alibi and he was able to prove by way of passport checks I guess that he was on holiday in Greece at the time of the murders.   

He supported JB throughout his trial so must have either hung around until then or returned for the trial.

Brett Colin’s only went to Greece for a fortnight — and was back well before time for the funerals.

You also know full well he went to live with Jeremy in Sheila’s flat in Maida Vale just days after Jeremy killed them all.

And you also know that Brett and Jeremy tried to hawk Sheila’s photos around Fleet Street.

So why are you making “inferences” Brett wasn’t around when you know he was?

Oh, and Brett DID leave the UK before the trial, so he was hardly supporting him!

In later interviews Brett said he knew deep down Jeremy had murdered them, but didn’t “want” to believe it. Once Brett accepted Jeremy was a mass murderer he cleared off back to NZ — he realised what Jeremy was and still hates him to this day,

[Vertigo Swirl]

I have no idea....people do a lot of guessing on here.

I’m guessing right now...I guess with her being a model they might have asked him if there were any.   All I know is they asked for them, he said no!

So they didn’t know there were any nude photos, and asked Jeremy on the off chance that there were some and Jeremy said “yes coincidentally there are but you’re not having them?”. And you believe this simply because you believe everything Jeremy tells you is the God’s Honest Truth?

[Caroline]

Photos existed, I do not dispute that.

I’m stating that Jeremy did not offer to sell the photos to the newspaper.

They requested photos, he refused.

Had he not refused, the pictures would be in the public domain somewhere...but I haven’t seen any yet, but I could be wrong.

He did offer to sell them, why do you think he agreed to meet Fielder in the pub? Fielder didn't buy them, instead they wrote the article about Jeremy trying to sell them. The Sun wouldn't have been able to print them anyway, and that's possibly why they turned them down but that aside, the fact remains that Jeremy DID try to sell them.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

You’re the scary one on here.

You have gleaned information first hand, like I have. And I can see that in your posts quite clearly.

You’ve been told the truth about the cover up haven’t you Ispy....and you’ve also been told the lies, which you have stated here (I think you slipped Up) .

The others cannot see it, well one Other person in particular now can, and you’re part of the continued cover up.

I recognise first hand information Ispy....everyone else on here is working from statements and heresay....you’re not are you?

I don’t think you were on the jury, even though you have stated you were on jury service in Chelmsford, I don’t think it’s regarding this case.

No, your posts are emotionally connected to this case, as are mine, and I can see you and your tactics very clearly.

If what I’m stating is true, you’re in deep waters if ever you’re unmasked Ispy.  May I suggest you be very careful in the game you’re playing....maybe it’s not a game to you. You are rather serious about this aren’t you?

I notice you’ve reined yourself in...I don’t know whether that’s because you’ve received a warning from admin, as I have, or because you need to take stock of yourself and ensure you don’t blow your cover.

You know what happened don’t you?   

A man is rotting away in prison, he’s being left there to die and you know there was a cover up.

God help you when your days of judgement come. 

You can do the right thing Ispy....not yet maybe. 

Think about it?  Please.

I must have sunstroke, because I don’t understand a word you’re saying 😂

I’ve never been on jury service in Chelmsford — whatever put THAT thought into your head?

I have NO connection with Jeremy Bamber and never have. Nor the family, and neither EP.

I don’t know what your problem is, but you sound terribly confused ...I don’t think you’re well, Agatha. You should see your GP if you’re having delusions and becoming paranoid. I don’t mean that rudely, I’m concerned for you.

[Aunt Agatha]

It seems that your Jeremy denies many things, including the one most sane people believe in... that he killed his entire close family...

From "Murders at White House Farm" by Carol Ann Lee...

"On Monday 16 September, Jeremy and Brett lunched in a Chelmsford pub with Sun journalist Michael Fielder. Brett had met Fielder the previous week, when he rang the newspaper to offer them a story on Jeremy in return for a lift back to Chelmsford. ‘Bambi Police Blaming My Pal Jeremy’ had appeared in Friday’s paper. Fielder later gave a detailed account of their Monday meeting, stating that Jeremy wanted £20,000 for twenty nude photographs of Sheila and a large fee for his life story. Fielder agreed to view the photographs at Morshead Mansions but his editor vetoed it, sensing that a story about Jeremy’s attempts to sell the photographs would make for more explosive headlines than explicit shots they couldn’t publish anyway. The Sun ran the piece the following day, telling its readers: ‘The brother of farmhouse massacre model Bambi Caffell was trying to cash in on the horror yesterday – by peddling soft-porn pictures of her. Smiling Jeremy Bamber, 24, offered topless and full frontal nude pictures of Bambi for “a substantial sum.”’ Jeremy was quoted as saying, ‘Unless the offer is really good, I’m not interested.’
An affiliate website to Jeremy’s campaign pages today denounces Fielder’s account, insisting that Jeremy met the Sun reporter against his better judgment and that Fielder repeatedly pressed for any nude shots of Sheila which were ‘never obtained’ because ‘they didn’t exist’. But Sheila’s friend has spoken at length about helping her prepare for the photo session, and Colin saw the resulting slides for himself, discussing them both in his witness statements and his memoir. He recalls that Jeremy’s description of the photographs to Fielder – ‘They show everything, right down to the last detail’ – was identical to the words Jeremy had used to him.
The Evening Standard ran a follow up story that day, after one of their journalists spoke to Jeremy at Sheila’s flat. Peter Gruner recalled that Jeremy hadn’t denied the Sun’s claims, responding, ‘That is interesting, but I have yet to read the papers today,’ although he did confirm, ‘I want a lot of money for my story, about £100,000. I think newspapers tend to make up stories about me.’ Colin saw the headlines in Cornwall only moments after posting a letter to Jeremy in which he expressed concern about the photographs. He immediately wrote a second letter expressing anger that Jeremy had tried to sell the images. He then regretted it, fearing he had placed himself in danger."

He’s not ‘my Jeremy’.

[Myster]

Hm---excuse me, Myster. I am a perfectly sane person, and I am not sure that Jeremy Bamber murdered his family!

Remind me to sharpen the points on that picket fence you're still sitting on!

[Aunt Agatha]

They wouldn't know he had then AA and it's too much of a coinicidence that just days before the article, he told Colin he had the pictures and used the same words that appeared in The Sun.

I have no idea.  Was anybody else around at the time to witness these conversations?

[John]

To be perfectly correct I suppose one could argue that Jeremy didn't sell any of the semi nude photos of Sheila to the Sun or any other newspaper but it didn't stop him trying while using Brett Collins as a go-between.

Bamber and his pal Brett Collins tried to flog nude pictures of his murdered sister Sheila Caffell around Fleet Street in London for a substantial sum before he was arrested.  His friend Brett Collins approached several newspapers on his behalf but every one declined the offer. The Evening Times printed an article shortly thereafter referring to the offer which they felt was in rather poor taste and certainly newsworthy in itself given the circumstances.

Evening Times Article - Tuesday 28 October 1986




To read full article click here

[Aunt Agatha]

So they didn’t know there were any nude photos, and asked Jeremy on the off chance that there were some and Jeremy said “yes coincidentally there are but you’re not having them?”. And you believe this simply because you believe everything Jeremy tells you is the God’s Honest Truth?

Wasn’t Brett around?

[Nicholas]

Brett Colin’s only went to Greece for a fortnight — and was back well before time for the funerals.

You also know full well he went to live with Jeremy in Sheila’s flat in Maida Vale just days after Jeremy killed them all.

And you also know that Brett and Jeremy tried to hawk Sheila’s photos around Fleet Street.

So why are you making “inferences” Brett wasn’t around when you know he was?

Oh, and Brett DID leave the UK before the trial, so he was hardly supporting him!

In later interviews Brett said he knew deep down Jeremy had murdered them, but didn’t “want” to believe it. Once Brett accepted Jeremy was a mass murderer he cleared off back to NZ — he realised what Jeremy was and still hates him to this day,

Why has Holly posted what she has

I thought EP checked out his alibi and he was able to prove by way of passport checks I guess that he was on holiday in Greece at the time of the murders.   

He supported JB throughout his trial so must have either hung around until then or returned for the trial.

Brett Collins went back to NZ in November 1985

The photos of Angela Greaves and Brett Collins are from October 1985 NOT 86

https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detail/news-photo/mr-brett-collins-and-angela-greaves-the-29-year-old-news-photo/830974720

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/angela-greaves-a-former-girlfriend-of-farmer-jeremy-bamber-news-photo/808134644

[Caroline]

I have no idea.  Was anybody else around at the time to witness these conversations?

AA, why would Colin lie? Colin is a true victim in this and he supported Jeremy after the murders until he began to see the mask slip. Colin had no time for the family and even he realised that something was wrong with the way Jeremy was behaving - in the end. Between the two, I would believe Colin every time.