British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.

[pathfinder73]

A British expat whose property overlooks the site was interviewed on Sky yesterday and he was well aware of the old tin.  Apparently it covered an old disused farmers well, the perfect place to hide remains.  As many posters have noted, the ground in Portugal is like concrete, very difficult to excavate even with the proper tools.  A deep ready made hole in the ground would seem to be the perfect solution for someone wishing to dispose of remains, it is unlikely that the police would ever investigate it properly due to the huge costs involved.  Many of these holes are also used to dispose of dead goats/sheep and just about every pet you can think of.

You would first need to know where an already made hole was located before moving the body there. So it will be interesting to see if anybody was there searching for Madeleine only hours after her disappearance >@@(*&)

[Alfred R Jones]

Have the police actually commenced digging yet?  If so, on what basis are they choosing where to dig?  Dog alerts or ground penetrating radar devices?  Does anyone know?

[jassi]

 Yesterday ir was about dogs and ground clearing. Today the papers seem to have been concentrating on the hole that was found.
I'm sure they will have been doing other things as well, but it doesn't seem to have been mentioned.

edit  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/madeleine-mccann-latest-police-erect-tent-and-begin-digging-in-portugal-scrubland-search-9485195.html

[lizzibif]

A little too late don't you think ? This should of happened 7 years ago by the Portugal police imo..bloody wet wipes they are.. 8-)(--)

[sadie]

On the news today they were saying that the team appear to have found a shaft or a tunnel on the mound.  It was under corrugated iron sheeting hidden with a covering of earth and some growth.  It is quite a big hole, shaft or tunnel the reporter was saying.   He thought that it was a shaft or tunnel.


Have The Romans, the Templars, or smugglers been here?  All are renouned for their tunnels  Might this have been the secret entrance that all castles and fortresses usually had?  Did it go underground to the Fortezela?  Did it have another entrance into the little beach next to the Fortezela? 

The tunnel that photographs have been shown on here with the two ex commandoes emerging from?


To see the next point, you must adjust your GEarth image to the date 4/16/ 2011.
It does not show on any other images

Zoom right in.
Interestingly, if you zoom right into the coast just south of the mound, there is a tiny narrow and VERY hidden inlet filled with water at high tide.  Could Madeleine have been taken out to sea via a tunnel that linked to this tiny inlet with a boat hidden there??

Have just measured the width of the inlet and as near as I can say it is 12 feet wide


I guess I am wrong but thought there might be a possiblity ... so have mentioned it for others to look at

[Martina]

What would the lighting have been like for them? Was it not very dark, or did they all have torches?

Got no idea, unfortunately and that is quite important question.  Funny thing is, though, that Russell mentions the wasteland near the Baptista Supermarket, but he forgets to mention the one with the mound.

[Martina]

On the news today they were saying that the team appear to have found a shaft or a tunnel on the mound.  It was under corrugated iron sheeting hidden with a covering of earth and some growth.  It is quite a big hole, shaft or tunnel the reporter was saying.   He thought that it was a shaft or tunnel.


Have The Romans, the Templars, or smugglers been here?  All are renouned for their tunnels  Might this have been the secret entrance that all castles and fortresses usually had?  Did it go underground to the Fortezela?  Did it have another entrance into the little beach next to the Fortezela? 

The tunnel that photographs have been shown on here with the two ex commandoes emerging from?


To see the next point, you must adjust your GEarth image to the date 4/16/ 2011.
It does not show on any other images

Zoom right in.
Interestingly, if you zoom right into the coast just south of the mound, there is a tiny narrow and VERY hidden inlet filled with water at high tide.  Could Madeleine have been taken out to sea via a tunnel that linked to this tiny inlet with a boat hidden there??

Yes. And the police is spending the mounds of money to dig out some tunnel that might, but might not, have been used to transport Madeleine. And they are sifting the soil looking for what? The Templar Knights gold?

[icabodcrane]

Why shouldn't they have been?  Where should they have been searching?   What are you implying?

In the direction the man Jane saw carrying a child  ? 

They knew she'd seen him and that she already thought it was Madeleine he was carrying,  and they knew he wasn't headed towards the beach

Yet that's where they all headed   

[Alfred R Jones]

A little too late don't you think ? This should of happened 7 years ago by the Portugal police imo..bloody wet wipes they are.. 8-)(--)

It beggars belief that proper, thorough searches were never conducted. 

[stephen25000]

It beggars belief that proper, thorough searches were never conducted.

...........and you were there ??? >@@(*&)

[jassi]

It beggars belief that proper, thorough searches were never conducted.

Water under the bridge, as they say.  Why not concentrate on the present action?

[Alfred R Jones]

In the direction the man Jane saw carrying a child  ? 

They knew she'd seen him and that she already thought it was Madeleine he was carrying,  and they knew he wasn't headed towards the beach

Yet that's where they all headed

So no one searched in the direction of Tannerman, is that what you're saying?

[Martina]

It beggars belief that proper, thorough searches were never conducted.

Why would they search the drains in 5A if Maddie was abducted by a stranger? Would any stranger feel comfortable enough to dispose of anything in the apartment where the regular check-ups on children were made? Really?

[Alfred R Jones]

Water under the bridge, as they say.  Why not concentrate on the present action?

I can multi-task, concentrating on present action whilst simultaneously lamenting the lack of action previously.  Clever aren't I?

[icabodcrane]

On the news today they were saying that the team appear to have found a shaft or a tunnel on the mound.  It was under corrugated iron sheeting hidden with a covering of earth and some growth.  It is quite a big hole, shaft or tunnel the reporter was saying.   He thought that it was a shaft or tunnel.


Have The Romans, the Templars, or smugglers been here?  All are renouned for their tunnels  Might this have been the secret entrance that all castles and fortresses usually had?  Did it go underground to the Fortezela?  Did it have another entrance into the little beach next to the Fortezela? 

The tunnel that photographs have been shown on here with the two ex commandoes emerging from?


To see the next point, you must adjust your GEarth image to the date 4/16/ 2011.
It does not show on any other images

Zoom right in.
Interestingly, if you zoom right into the coast just south of the mound, there is a tiny narrow and VERY hidden inlet filled with water at high tide.  Could Madeleine have been taken out to sea via a tunnel that linked to this tiny inlet with a boat hidden there??

Have just measured the width of the inlet and as near as I can say it is 12 feet wide


I guess I am wrong but thought there might be a possiblity ... so have mentioned it for others to look at

Who said this hole could be a  'tunnel'  ?

Except you, I mean