Madeleine McCann. Sniffer dogs brought in to help with scrubland dig.

[pathfinder73]

Montclair posted this:
In Portugal the coffins with the deceased are kept in the church or the misericórdia for at least a day before the funeral so that people can pay their respects and sign the condolences book. The coffins are then taken directly from the church in the hearse to the cemetary with mourners following or to the cremation site. I have been to enough funerals here to know how it works.

http://crematorium.eu/26_questtions_about_cremation.html:
Is the coffin cremated with the body?

The container and the body shall be placed in cremator and cremation commenced. The coffin or container with the body inside shall not be opened or otherwise disturbed, other than in exceptional circumstances, and then only with the express permission and in the presence of the Applicant for Cremation (usually the executor or next of kin).

[pathfinder73]

I am afraid we must give some thought as to exactly how these items became contaminated.

It is obvious.

[ferryman]

I am afraid we must give some thought as to exactly how these items became contaminated.

And also just exactly what we can (and can't) infer from Eddie picking things up in his mouth.

[pegasus]

This existing-coffin idea is a complicated method and unrealistic IMO.
Look at the recent existing-grave concealment case in the UK. Stupidly risky.

[pathfinder73]

This existing-coffin idea is a complicated method and unrealistic IMO.
Look at the recent existing-grave concealment case in the UK. Stupidly risky.

I agree it's very risky but an effective way to get rid of any body evidence.

Can you find out if any funerals took place 2/3 June?

[pegasus]

I agree it's very risky but an effective way to get rid of any body evidence.

Can you find out if any funerals took place 2/3 June?

I could try but I think this funeral is irrelevant.
If I did I would look for the church calendar of events of that week.
BTW it's fairly easy to guess nationality.

[Alfred R Jones]

I agree it's very risky but an effective way to get rid of any body evidence.

Can you find out if any funerals took place 2/3 June?

And whilst you're at it check to see if any dogs died thst weekend and were taken to the pet crematorium.

[pathfinder73]

And whilst you're at it check to see if any dogs died thst weekend and were taken to the pet crematorium.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HOOS_HENDRIK.htm

[Alfred R Jones]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HOOS_HENDRIK.htm

Terribly remiss of the PJ to check with the local Pet Crem guy but not to check all the coffins left in the church that summer.

[slartibartfast]

there would bound to be contamination on the outside of the casket

Why would the body touch the outside of the casket?

[pegasus]

I agree it's very risky but ...

There was a case in Oxfordshire where a man was seen carrying, then later seen near a church.
But in the PDL case I think you are at the wrong location, only a low intelligence perp would choose such a stupid plan.

[Mr Gray]

Why would the body touch the outside of the casket?

Doesn't have to...the people who put the body in the casket touch the lid and the outside of the casket...grime says contamination is immediate

grime talks about the alerts being the result of contamination...this is one possibility

[pathfinder73]

Doesn't have to...the people who put the body in the casket touch the lid and the outside of the casket...grime says contamination is immediate

grime talks about the alerts being the result of contamination...this is one possibility

How? None of the priests went into 5A. Do you know when the McCanns moved out?

[Mr Gray]

How? None of the priests went into 5A. Do you know when the McCanns moved out?

grime mentions cross contamination as a reason for the alerts..it cant be ignored

[stephen25000]

grime mentions cross contamination as a reason for the alerts..it cant be ignored

Neither can be the distinct possibility the dogs got it right in the apartment, and of course they didn't signal in any other one.