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Offline VIXTE

Re: Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.
« Reply #60 on: June 08, 2014, 02:27:37 PM »
Press reports indicate that SY have found 3 of these peeps communicated with each other by phone both before and after the alarm. For two short periods that night there is in the files complete traffic of communication between all mobiles where both are using a PDL mast. By combining the two sets of data, one in table form, the other in diagram form, it is possible using only the published periods to find an interconnected group of 3 mobiles.

I believe there are at least 2 masts in PDL. I researched this and found at least 2.


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.
« Reply #61 on: June 08, 2014, 02:28:31 PM »
Can it really be the case that all these  digs   are centred on the,  conveniently  dead,  black man  ?

They're not actually trying to pin it on him are they  ?

if they find maddie's remains there...what would you think

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.
« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2014, 02:47:27 PM »
From what I have read recently in both the British Press and the Portuguese Press the PJ and SY are not only not on the same page but are not even on the same book.

Bring Amaral back  @)(++(* They can't be tracking a black Smithman   8-)(--)
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline jassi

Re: Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.
« Reply #63 on: June 08, 2014, 02:47:47 PM »
what if you felt the evidence was weak ...would you still accept the conviction of the abductor
 

Miscarriages of justice do occur, but I feel that one has to respect the decision of the Court.

If evidence was weak, then a conviction might not occur, or might well be overturned on appeal.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.
« Reply #64 on: June 08, 2014, 02:51:09 PM »
 

Miscarriages of justice do occur, but I feel that one has to respect the decision of the Court.

If evidence was weak, then a conviction might not occur, or might well be overturned on appeal.

no...convictions occur on weak evidence

Offline jassi

Re: Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.
« Reply #65 on: June 08, 2014, 02:56:51 PM »
no...convictions occur on weak evidence

I know - which is why I said might.  So much depends upon the persuasive skills of the lawyers, at least when a jury is involved.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

ferryman

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Re: Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.
« Reply #66 on: June 08, 2014, 03:14:24 PM »
Ah! you have been reading The Mirror again!

A vast improvement on Correia de Manaha ...

Offline Carana

Re: Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.
« Reply #67 on: June 08, 2014, 03:29:44 PM »
Can it really be the case that all these  digs   are centred on the,  conveniently  dead,  black man  ?

They're not actually trying to pin it on him are they  ?

No idea. Probably tabloid rubbish as usual.

Is anyone seriously suggesting that a guy who apparently died in 2009 is on the shortlist of people to be interviewed?
« Last Edit: June 08, 2014, 03:31:42 PM by Carana »

Offline John

Re: Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.
« Reply #68 on: June 08, 2014, 06:44:23 PM »
Having just edited this thread, two things are noted.

* It states at the bottom of the Guardian article that the McCanns were cleared by the Portuguese when their arguido status was lifted.  That is an inaccurate representation of the situation.

The facts are that the nature of the crime was undetermined.  Unknown crime unknown perpetrator.

It was not the function of the AG to clear anyone, that is the job of a court and properly directed jury.  Consequently, although the arguido status was lifted this has no relevance to guilt or innocence.

* My second observation relates to the three burglars who apparently were in telephone contact with each other the night that Madeleine disappeared. I find it very very hard to believe that three men who were burglars shared a predisposition to paedophilia.  It just doesn't happen.  These perps usually operate on their own due to the nature of the crime.  I think SY are way off on this one.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.
« Reply #69 on: June 08, 2014, 06:49:21 PM »
Having just edited this thread, two things are noted.

* It states at the bottom of the Guardian article that the McCanns were cleared by the Portuguese when their arguido status was lifted.  That is an inaccurate representation of the situation.

The facts are that the nature of the crime was undetermined.  Unknown crime unknown perpetrator.

It was not the function of the AG to clear anyone, that is the job of a court and properly directed jury.  Consequently, although the arguido status was lifted this has no relevance to guilt or innocence.

* My second observation relates to the three burglars who apparently were in telephone contact with each other the night that Madeleine disappeared. I find it very very hard to believe that three men who were burglars shared a predisposition to paedophilia.  It just doesn't happen.  These perps usually operate on their own due to the nature of the crime.  I think SY are way off on this one.

I thought that one theory they were working on was an interrupted burglary that ended in the death or abduction of Madeleine, not that all three burglars were also paedophiles?  Though it's not beyond the realms of possibility that paedophiles would work together to hunt their prey. 

stephen25000

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Re: Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.
« Reply #70 on: June 08, 2014, 07:26:42 PM »
I thought that one theory they were working on was an interrupted burglary that ended in the death or abduction of Madeleine, not that all three burglars were also paedophiles?  Though it's not beyond the realms of possibility that paedophiles would work together to hunt their prey.

That is called clutching at straws.

Offline pegasus

Re: Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.
« Reply #71 on: June 08, 2014, 07:39:41 PM »
Interrupted burglary is a good line to investigate IMO.
But what is the first possible stage at which a burglary might be interrupted?
Why assume the burglar gets as far as even entering?


stephen25000

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Re: Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.
« Reply #72 on: June 08, 2014, 07:50:18 PM »
Interrupted burglary is a good line to investigate IMO.
But what is the first possible stage at which a burglary might be interrupted?
Why assume the burglar gets as far as even entering?

Except of course that there is no evidence of burglary.

'NOTHING OF VALUE WAS TAKEN FROM THE APARTMENT'.

Martina

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Re: Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.
« Reply #73 on: June 08, 2014, 07:58:24 PM »
Except of course that there is no evidence of burglary.

'NOTHING OF VALUE WAS TAKEN FROM THE APARTMENT'.

You can see at the pictures, that the apartment was not even searched by th hypothetical burglar.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.
« Reply #74 on: June 08, 2014, 08:00:03 PM »
You can see at the pictures, that the apartment was not even searched by th hypothetical burglar.

seems like SY are on the wrong track then