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Offline Albertini

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #270 on: June 15, 2014, 07:32:29 PM »
yes they were looking at tractorman....what a brilliant lot of detectives. In my view the pj reopened because they knew that if they didn't they would be forced by the uk...it was  a face saving exercise

Have you seen the new case files? Wow, you have a real scoop there, you should share the details.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #271 on: June 15, 2014, 07:33:13 PM »
Nope. As has been pointed out this exercise would have been the equivalent of SY's forensic analysis of the timelines SY say they performed 7 years later. As such it would I have either provided a new timeline and window of opportunity to concentrate on or it would have provided an opportunity to take matters further regarding the McCann's.

Are you still spouting your drivel and chucking the insults out like smarties?

One would have presumed you would have learnt your lesson after having two posts removed last night by the mods.

Can you provide evidence where the PJ have formally appointed SY to take over their investigation? You will also note that the PJ are also investigating the case again.

the pj have been forced to follow SYs line of investigation...I don't see the pj investigating anything...everything now is SY driven

Offline jassi

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #272 on: June 15, 2014, 07:33:43 PM »
yes they were looking at tractorman....what a brilliant lot of detectives. In my view the pj reopened because they knew that if they didn't they would be forced by the uk...it was  a face saving exercise

Portugal is a sovereign state and can't be forced to do anything.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #273 on: June 15, 2014, 07:34:44 PM »
At the time of Rebelo's reconstruction parental involvement was one of the lines of enquiries, yes.

Thank you.

you said if the parents were ruled out the pj would be forced to look at abduction...so they were not doing that ..in your opinion

Offline Albertini

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #274 on: June 15, 2014, 07:34:54 PM »
yes they were looking at tractorman....what a brilliant lot of detectives. In my view the pj reopened because they knew that if they didn't they would be forced by the uk...it was  a face saving exercise

As opposed to the brilliant SY detectives looking for burglarising drug traffickers who buried the child within sight of their front doors?

Don't believe all you read.

Offline jassi

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #275 on: June 15, 2014, 07:35:43 PM »
the pj have been forced to follow SYs line of investigation...I don't see the pj investigating anything...everything now is SY driven

Portugal is complying with requests from UK. They are not saying what the Oporto team are doing.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #276 on: June 15, 2014, 07:53:14 PM »
That's right I did say that.

What your lack of brain power highlights is that you can't understand the fact that investigations can have multiple lines of enquiries, theories as well as suspects and all of these  can be ruled out (or in) by a process of elimination or uncovering new evidence.

Theories have a place.  However the evidence should not be made to fit the theory.  The theory should follow the evidence.  If it does not it is merely fantasy.
The fatal weakness of Dr Amaral's investigation was in trying to effect the former.

Close analysis of the 48 questions show they held no evidential value whatsoever as they were based on misinterpretation of forensics.

In effect they show up the amateurishness of the investigators and rather than being used however successfully in the propaganda campaign directed at Dr McCann, they should have been quietly shelved.  They are evidence of incompetence which show these particular investigators up as amateurs when it comes to interpreting the results of properly conducted forensic tests.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #277 on: June 15, 2014, 07:54:45 PM »
Theories have a place.  However the evidence should not be made to fit the theory.  The theory should follow the evidence.  If it does not it is merely fantasy.
The fatal weakness of Dr Amaral's investigation was in trying to effect the former.

Close analysis of the 48 questions show they held no evidential value whatsoever as they were based on misinterpretation of forensics.

In effect they show up the amateurishness of the investigators and rather than being used however successfully in the propaganda campaign directed at Dr McCann, they should have been quietly shelved.  They are evidence of incompetence which show these particular investigators up as amateurs when it comes to interpreting the results of properly conducted forensic tests.

what a wonderful synopsis

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #278 on: June 15, 2014, 09:04:50 PM »
One you cannot comprehend?
Exactly, it is one that neither I, nor any right thinking person can comprehend.  A  system that can only bring suspects to court if they co-operate fully co-operate with the investigation into their alleged crimes is a pretty pathetic one IMO.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #279 on: June 19, 2014, 10:40:47 PM »
Indeed Kate did have the right to remain silent- I have no issues with the process of the law what so ever.
whether it is Kate's or Amaral's. I am for 'justice' which is why I joined this forum.

However, as a mother myself,  that last question left me with a feeling of exasperation.

Pj-  you do know that by refusing to answer this might harm the investigation into your daughters disappearance... she replied "YES". Yes, she did know she could cause harm to the investigation- and to be very fair, the questions asked would not have compromised Kate's presumed innocence.

Neither would a reconstruction, why would it? unless they had something to hide?
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Carana

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #280 on: June 21, 2014, 04:39:28 PM »
First off, the pursuer(s) are as much obliged to be in attendance as the defendant.

Secondly, neither of them were present at the vast majority of the hearings.

Thirdly, only someone with something to hide would have refused to answer all the PJ questions.  Gerry answered them so why didn't Kate?

Fourthly, along with the other protagonists they never attended the reconstruction.

Protagonist > a leading character

I disagree. Kate was the first of the two to be interviewed as an arguido. She chose to follow her lawyer's advice.

The set of questions were not the same.


Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #281 on: June 21, 2014, 05:42:22 PM »
First off, the pursuer(s) are as much obliged to be in attendance as the defendant.

Secondly, neither of them were present at the vast majority of the hearings.

Thirdly, only someone with something to hide would have refused to answer all the PJ questions.  Gerry answered them so why didn't Kate?

Fourthly, along with the other protagonists they never attended the reconstruction.

Protagonist > a leading character

Come off it John - the questions were a fishing expedition.  They had sod all to do with finding Madeleine.  Kates lawyer saw that.

Kate had already answered questions that were relevant to finding Madeleine in her witness interview the previous day. 

Arguidos have a right to silence for a very good reason.

The last question was a disgrace.

icabodcrane

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Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #282 on: June 21, 2014, 05:49:55 PM »




The last question was a disgrace.

Some might say the 'disgrace'  lay in the answer given


stephen25000

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Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #283 on: June 21, 2014, 05:55:14 PM »
Come off it John - the questions were a fishing expedition.  They had sod all to do with finding Madeleine.  Kates lawyer saw that.

Kate had already answered questions that were relevant to finding Madeleine in her witness interview the previous day. 

Arguidos have a right to silence for a very good reason.

The last question was a disgrace.

As you know well, she didn't want to answer the questions in case their accounts didn't tally.


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #284 on: June 21, 2014, 05:56:29 PM »
As you know well, she didn't want to answer the questions in case their accounts didn't tally.

and what evidence do you have for that...none